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Everyone has their own opinions, but one I really like is putting the knockback/punch enchantment on the archer's sword rather than bow.
- could help reduce bowspam (unable to reach and hit an archer)
- would nerf its OP instakilling bow
(could prevent few more headshots by not letting someone get hit back into headshot range)

Also medic sharp 1 +1

Stuff like that would hardly change much, but I think it'll help in the right direction.

 

If your defense cannot prevent a ninja from capping you probably don't have a defense in the first place.

Defend and the ninja won't have a chance to change classes. You do play Pyro, right? Hell, even fashionista on defense can prevent this.

Some people go offensive ninja and remove the pyros, ninjas and assassins for others to capture. Again, if somehow this one ninja steals the flag any other class could as well.

Lowering the amount of eggs or removing its AOE would be better. It doesn't remove the fact that you'll be constantly blinded because some ninjas use them in moderation. Too long of a cooldown and the eggs would be rendered useless. Too short of a cooldown and you'll be stuck with the same problem.

Doing more damage would make it stupidly strong against low-armored classes, something it already excels at. It's the knockback that's the issue here, it's like the engineer's turret from a couple years back.

A mage never gets through 10 heals in a fight, or over 70 seconds of combat. Respawning after healing isn't hard...

Adding back sharpness 1 would solidify medic as one of the best capping classes. With its fire immunity, high health and cobwebs its only weakness is ninja, assassin and archer. Ninjas currently are 5 shotted by the medic, -1 per pearl used. The one less hit it would take to kill the ninja actually would matter a lot. Slowness 2 nullifies ninja's speed 2, taking away one of the most important aspects of ninja. Worst idea yet.

+0. Too heavy of a nerf, medic isn't really a combat class but if you do make it one problems arise. ^^^

It isn't the second strongest armor in the game. This is a CAPPING class made for CAPPING. It's weak enough against pyro, which is what you claim to main!!
Hardly even needs it? The low horizontal mobility doesn't help you in a flag room where you get your ass whooped until you can get out. Most of the time I'm barely alive if I get out, even on a map like Blackout.

You don't even play elf wtf.

 

^ this is how you respond to good feedback

 

I wonder who told me they were

This isn't called playing elf, it's called trying it.
I don't have an idea to encourage people to play it because respawning isn't hard. Also, just capture a lot, people will hear your cries of /md.
I doubt you could survive a flagroom with a pyro or two, couple ninjas, maybe a dwarf, an assassin and then an archer ready to snipe you when you leave. Hell, you can't even survive a 1v1 against me...

 

Majority rules.

 

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One.

 

Welp. I was looking forward to reading some good suggestions but it appears I've walked into a petty argument. Rip me. Well I suppose now that I've commented I'll know when others reply so maybe it'll pick up soon.

 

It's considered cheap because of ghost and premature pearling. These are things which are planned to be fixed. You could cut route, and ninjas can run as fast.

I don't think they should be allowed to infinitely heal. Damage spell is fine.

Bring back sharpness 1. I would prefer a more eloquent reasoning behind it however.

No, you're encouraging archers to camp when you increase the range of headshot, which makes them even more annoying and liable to random shoot. The knockback thing is OK, though I would prefer other options already said previously/

Soldier is fine. You're just annoyed people can use it well. There are ways to counter it, and if anything should be done, it should be from other classes.

This sounds like a terrible idea. Both pure and earth element aren't the problems with elf, it's the water and wind if anything. Sword is fine given the thing doesn't have massively strong armor.

no

Sounds overall like you're more just trying to get rid of stuff you find annoying rather than try to correct stuff that's truly imbalanced. More detail is needed for some (how much of a buff with a medic sword? how much of a cooldown increase? etc.). Other suggestions would have side effects, like the archer headshot range. I think all of these need work before anything is done (even if we had a coder to implement them)[/QUOTE]

 

I don't know. One minute it looks like there might be legitimate discussion, and then an argument happens. It's a little embarrassing, but that's none of my business. And being someone who ninja caps (ik I'm terrible, I should be punished ) it's not particularly easy. The whole defense as to not pay attention for 3-4 seconds. And let's say you get it, one miss pearl and you're dead, one half way decent roaming ninja and you're dead. So I wouldn't really call it broken, just because it happens every once and a while.

 

enderpearling is part of the ninja class. I don't believe it should be removed, just nerfed. I like the idea of invisibility being disabled within a certain area (such as around the flag room). Maybe we could link it to a specific block like we do for soldiers or engis.

 

No, sometimes you might have a ninja as assistance to kill ninjas/assassins/pyros in the enemy flag room before you go in.

 

Elf doesn't need a nerf, what are you talking about. Soldier wall climb is 10x better than elfs wind element.

 

i like pie

 

If you /switch with the flag in your inventory, it automatically restores. It would be very difficult to code in a case where the flag automatically restores after you drop it to switch to a different class (it would be annoying when people try to pass the flag to other team mates / recovering the flag).