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  1. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    why does necro exist?

    serious question

    when i play it, all it does is make me bored & upset. why?

    -zombies are worthless
    -upgraded mobs are almost as worthless
    -both of the last two necro reworks sucked
    -buffs are stupid (why SPEED before resistance? and why only speed 2???)
    -pickaxe is a sh*t weapon. gold sword is even sh*ttier
    -you only get buffs from doing damage with pickaxe (skinny fifth graders hit harder than necro zombies) meaning it takes too long to get buffs
    -mobs are impossible to control (without placing the beacon - which, in turn, limits their range)
    -mobs cannot be healed
    -mob on hit debuffs are worthless
    -mobs are too slow to actually catch anyone out (buffs dont really help)
    -necro is not tanky enough to deal high damage without dying
    -necro is still a camping class (i.e. the beacon)
    -necro is sh*t at offense, because it is a camping class
    -necro is sh*t at defense, because it does no damage
    -necro is sh*t at midfield, because archer, mage, and engineer
    -necro cannot capture, because it cannot spawn mobs in flagrooms and has far less mobility than soldier
    -necro cannot recover, because it is a camping class and does no damage
    -mob AI is garbage
    -class is way too dependent on mob AI

    why does it exist?

    and an old question... why was the community's (forum let alone in game) input not considered during the making of the last necro rework (which fixed almost nothing that was wrong with the class)? Surely that would have avoided this fiasco, which we are now stuck with because ctf has no coder

    ???
     
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  2. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    I still have no idea how necro works now
    Can't be bothered to learn a class when I'll never really use it
     
    #2 ACE_BLUE2, Jul 15, 2017
  3. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    1. Because people like having cancer in their backyard.

    2. I would love to code for CTF, but as far as I was told there would be no guarantee that I would become a coder for CTF just by applying. May seem selfish that I would want to work with only one aspect of brawls network, but CTF is the only thing that keeps me here plus it is the only game mode I know inside and out. Don't play anywhere else.
     
    #3 minecraftnoob999, Jul 16, 2017
  4. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Engineer is cancer. Necro is just dumb
     
    #4 EmperorTrump45, Jul 16, 2017
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    Improve the AI of the mobs, replace blazes with an actually decent mob, and add tagging from WIKI_KIKI's rework and I think Necro would become an excellent class.
     
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    #5 GalaThundR, Jul 16, 2017
  6. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    basically, add a CTF coder and you're good to go!
     
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    #6 minecraftnoob999, Jul 16, 2017
  7. Pizze

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    lets get old necro back where u can hide ur spawner in 1x1 airholes underground and have unkillable zombies
     
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  8. Lewka

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    When you first complain in 1 billion and 1 threads about necro needing a rework, and then when it finally gets a rework you are still unsatisfied.

    Sums up all the efforts of the staff team that were in vain over the years
     
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  9. SoCool21

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    ^ Prime example of why transparency should be a thing. If we're going to make the community wait a few years for a class rework, it should at least be a good one.
     
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    #9 SoCool21, Jul 16, 2017
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  11. ofq

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    Well I got a question why is necro not allowed in a lot of ppms and matches. Just curious.
     
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    Do you know how to code? I'll bet if you know your stuff you might have a chance.
     
    #12 Freedom_35, Jul 16, 2017
  13. EmperorTrump45

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    Let me make something clear: I've made just as many if not more threads suggesting ways to improve Necro as I have complaints, both before and after the last rework over the past three years. It's not like I woke up one morning, realized how terrible Necro is, and decided to trash staff over it - as you seem to suggest. I've played my fair share of Necro, with this rework, and it's bad. It's ridiculous that Necro still has this problem after four years and two reworks, something which might have been avoided with a coder and transparency.

    Oh please. How about the efforts of the community that were in vain over the years? I mean, do I need to link the five dozen Necro reworks, posted here (not including the ones from McPVP), most of which were nothing like the most recent rework?
     
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  14. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    There's nothing wrong with being unsatisfied because that leads to improvement and growth, but what is this thread's purpose? Is it a call for necro to be removed, buffed, reworked? Or is it just a desperate cry for something to be done?
     
    #14 featherpaw, Jul 16, 2017
  15. EmperorTrump45

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  16. GalaThundR

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    Necro is better than what is was don't get me wrong, but it's still not very good for regular use ingame. The mobs just simply don't do enough for much use.
     
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    #16 GalaThundR, Jul 16, 2017
  17. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    That is a brilliant gif. XD I love it. Ok, so buffing. I can get behind that. I'd like to see necro used more anyway. Gets boring having engi and necro hardly used.
     
    #17 featherpaw, Jul 16, 2017
  18. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Necro is still apparently so good that every1 has to ban it against a team of people who don't play the game xdddd

    Because people refuse to learn how to play against it, same with mage and ninja capping. /shrug
     
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    #18 Miskey, Jul 17, 2017
  19. EmperorTrump45

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    or ppl don't want to have an annoying camping class in matches that does absolutely nothing useful lol
     
    #19 EmperorTrump45, Jul 17, 2017
  20. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Necro is pretty damn strong on some maps tbh. I don't agree with classes being banned because they're annoying at all. I don't care how annoying something is, if it's not overpowered it shouldn't be able to be banned in an official match. And everything actually overpowered should be banned by MMR.

    I don't just mean strong as in overpowered. I'm talking broken in matches.
     
    #20 Miskey, Jul 17, 2017
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