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Discussion in 'Outros' started by Redorian, Jul 23, 2017.

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  1. Grenzo

    Grenzo Well-Known Member

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    "Same result every time" so, you're gonna cheat every time?

    I might be wrong, but, I really do believe you're cheating ESPECIALLY after that video. I have 2 questions though:

    1. How do you defend yourself after that video:

    2: You're leaving because you got banned? Not sure why you didn't appeal and say the truth. But, whatever floats your boat. You do you.
     
  2. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    Actually ping does matter on brawl if you haven't noticed. Have you fought anyone AU or EU? their range is different. When ever i get a sad 200ms it changes from my usual and looks different on the other players screen. The server is more broken on the knockback is what is meant. Also just because he leaves brawl does not mean he is cheating. There are players who feel as if the server just is not right for them and changed from the old days. I remember back in 2014 it was more fun for me but now its getting to the point where people are just a pain on brawl and become toxic. And no none of my points are excuses which you are also incorrect on quite a few are valid. I have noticed the way I worded it on here is different from what I would say. I am not the best at typing out what I have to say. Also you have only been on brawl for almost 2 years I noticed. There is still more out there for you to notice on the server. Take it from someone who has been on here for years.
     
  3. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    I like how you try to debunk what I wrote with "I've been here longer than you, so clearly I know more". Yes I have fought people from the AU and EU, and yes they do take delayed kb. However, what I'm speaking of is this video specifically. You sound like you're talking more in general. What you previously wrote sounded like a defense for this specific case, hence why I wrote the excuse portion. I know that in other cases your points could be true, however in this specific case (as I said before) they most certainly are not. There's a difference between delayed knockback, and no knockback at all. And if you watched the video, it becomes apparent. Hitting someone without looking, snapping at brawl bot, and an obvious increase in range? Sounds like a client to me.

    I believe there was a confusion between what we were talking about. I was saying that the points you made didn't really apply here, but in some cases they would apply elsewhere. To me it sounded as though u we're coming up with excuses for this particular situation. If you were speaking generally, I take it back. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  4. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    If you see this twice sorry not loading on my screen :/

    I did make a appeal and I was 100% honest and I've always been honest since this video was out. Sure I've hacked once this server and lied about it but this time I'm being truthful. I didn't hack in the video

    I did appeal and what u meant by saying you're going to get the same result I meant the reach and snaps
    My combos just look like bcz and I tend to Stimp101[360] so I look like I snap.
    The back hitting part idek
    Plus now people can get me banned just by recording a 1v1 against me :/

    Would anyone buy it if I said Stimpy was on my account :smile:?
     
  5. Grenzo

    Grenzo Well-Known Member

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    No. Because Stimpy doesn't cheat.

    There is no range different depending on your region. There's delayed hits however, and delayed knockback, but that's not a different range of reach.
     
  6. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Could always be latency, and I take about as much KB as you but I have about 10-20 ms. Also you seem to be lagging, aswell as pointing out that Participated has that FOV all the way up which makes everything seem further. The hits behind your back also could of been lag. But there was a point when you literally took No KB at all! So it's hard to believe you bro.
     
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  7. Participated

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    100 FOV isn't that bad );
     
  8. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    Ok ok listen here... at 0:17 you are standing still and instantly start getting out of range hits whichever is literally miles away I mean you might as well be on the moon like Jesus... The fact of you standing still and quite instantly getting hits from that distance excludes ping from the whole situation.

    The headsnap - I do a lot of headsnaps all the time from 360ing to fix my mouse there is a very clear difference on that type of 360/180 compared to an aim assist related one as you can see it is controlled however, your headsnap was not controlled and cannot really be excused by the fact of a pro PvPers strategy of fixing their mouse.

    Also could this please not turn into a hackusation war from now on and keep to an"outro", thanks.
     
  9. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    i mean there really is no point of me appealing if you all think i hacked but i didn't
    that's a good idea then
    i won't appeal

    my kb is natural it's usually like that
     
  10. Grenzo

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    If you won't appeal, then have fun.

    You can always appeal in the future and just say you hack even if you think you dont.
     
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  11. Carnotauros

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    Well, this video in particular looked very sketchy, but I have to agree with you, it's way to easy to get someone falsebanned here.

    @TheMel0n got banned a few weeks ago for "knockback modifiers" because of video evidence, but I can assure you he was legit, even if I was asleep at the time he played I always make sure that he hasn't any hacks on his PC and I also checked the video + all of his folders (so that I didn't lie in my appeal for him). What did I find? Nothing except the video that got him banned.

    I have to agree with the staff member who banned him, he looked kind of sketchy, but it was lag 100%, many people with wacky connections get falsebanned by videos.

    So, what can we do about it?
    Well, that's pretty obvious isn't it? Don't ban people for video evidence, use it to know what people you have to take a look at ingame, of course there can be exceptions when there are obvious signs of hacks (like fly).
     
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  12. Speedcell

    Speedcell Ex-Raid Mod | Team Vanta

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    You were hitting him out of your back. End of the story.
     
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  13. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    Ty
     
  14. Speedcell

    Speedcell Ex-Raid Mod | Team Vanta

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    - Then the report system would be useless. Everyone would toggle their hacks(reach/no-kb/aim assist/etc) which are not detectable by BrawlBot, when there are no staff on...
     
  15. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    How would they know when staff are not on?
     
  16. charlottethegirl

    charlottethegirl Ex- Party JMOD

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    I would say that video is evidence for hacking, but I do not want to start an argument over it.
     
  17. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    They don't need to know. That's the point of recording T_T if someone is suspicious, they record and the staff determines whether they're hacking or not. Recording is necessary because the staff is only human, and can't be on every second of every day to fight every accused hacker in a 1v1
     
  18. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Well, fine, but staff shouldn't ban if they aren't 100% sure if they are hacking or not.
     
  19. Speedcell

    Speedcell Ex-Raid Mod | Team Vanta

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    How do you know they weren't 100% sure?
     
  20. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    No sh*t sherlock
     
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