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Chemist Change?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Dragoarg, Dec 4, 2017.

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  1. Dragoarg

    Dragoarg Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys, I've started to play chemist a little more, and I realized fire resistance is good in only a little amount of situations. It's still pretty nice to have, but it makes catching a chemist very hard, unless you're a decent mage, ninja or archer.

    Now this may be suggested already, I didn't take the time to look, or it may just be a bad idea. But, however, what if they replaced chemist's fire res pots, with potions of water, that have the effect of elf, without the resistance buff.

    What this would do is:
    - allow chemist to take fire tick damage, which doesn't hurt with the damage aspect seeing as you have regen, but ticks damage so you slow down
    - allow chemist to use these pots to help against pyro, since a chemist has the ability to die really easily, by putting out fire
    - buffing chemist as a support class, and open possibilities for something along the lines of that

    One thing that this 'water pot' would need if it were to be implemented is a high cool down. It's supposed to be a one time use thing, and with many more uses it could be a little too strong. Making it take more energy, or the same as a damage pot, would go well with the item.

    Anyways thats my idea, doesn't have to be a good one, just thought it up as I was playing chemist earlier.
     
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    #1 Dragoarg, Dec 4, 2017
  2. Blackfurrykitty

    Blackfurrykitty Well-Known Member

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    I strongly disagree with this idea. There are to many situations I can think of where using a pot of water like that would help classes like soldier easily evade pyro defenses. Not only that the fire resistance is to helpful. If I use it and have a cool down a pyro can just reignite me and im now worse off then before. Now I can't escape easily cause of fire tick damage. Where has before I still retained full mobility. that both makes it much harder to take out a pyro and much harder to evade a pyro defense.
     
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    #2 Blackfurrykitty, Dec 4, 2017
  3. scapezar

    scapezar Ex-Ban/Appeal Manager | Ex-Hack Test Manager

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    Interesting idea, though I feel like this little niche should be just for elf.
    It would certainly change the game a bit...not sure if it would be an overall buff or nerf for pyro and offensive classes (like kitty mentioned, it's leaning more toward a nerf for chemist at least)...

    Tbh i'd support either way, but I don't think it's a necessary change...so better to change first what is necessary or at least slightly more important/relevant and go from there.

    Spicing things up is always fun tho :wink: ngl
     
    #3 scapezar, Dec 4, 2017
  4. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    I could see this being useful, like when a pyro uses frenzy, 1 pot of "water" would put it out and the soldier can escape. Being someone who plays pyro (occasionally and horribly) I'm looking for a buff for pyro, and this feels like a nerf. Not to mention this idea is already implemented better with the elf class (never thought I'd get to say "elf does it better"). It's a nice thought, but I think a better direction would be to buff fire res.
     
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    #4 Spades_, Dec 4, 2017
  5. redslime

    redslime Lead Developer

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    no.
     
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    #5 redslime, Dec 5, 2017
  6. Deppuccino

    Deppuccino Well-Known Member

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    I like to think that 3 ninjas can do what a Pyro can't. This includes balance Chemist offence. Don't nerf what's already nerfed, just blame the most likely randees on not taking 10 seconds out of their lives to kill you. If even the ninjas fail to kill you, then well you're just good at the class then aren't you.
     
    #6 Deppuccino, Dec 5, 2017
  7. alfs

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    With this idea it would nerf pyro a lot even after it was nerfed, not making the game balanced anymore. Tbh I think it the fire res pots are good enough.
     
    #7 alfs, Dec 16, 2017
  8. lnformative

    lnformative Well-Known Member

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    honestly just give it more health pots lol
     
    #8 lnformative, Dec 17, 2017
  9. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    honestly just use the medic duping glitch lol
    30 steak medics
     
    #9 Salty_Ivan, Dec 17, 2017
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