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bringing up depression in game is pointless, and degrades our most important human right, life

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by redboo123, Dec 23, 2017.

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  1. Fista

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  2. TTD3

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    What was exactly so ****ty to start with this news article?
    I could've actually stated things (which may or may not be simple rumours) which happened in this community, but obviously, I couldn't name a reliable source and it would be highly disrespectful and - yes - insensitive.

    While it's 'nice' to hear she reacts that way, it doesn't mean that every depressed person acts like that.
    To bring up a personal example (which should obviously not be used as a generalisation, but the exact opposite), one close friend of me with whom I am to move in hopefully quite soon had depression about 5 years ago. Although everybody knew that he was sad and quite exhausted that his parents were getting divorced, it was only his mother who realised what was happening.

    I honestly doubt that you know it, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. You may see what happens with them when they're depressed, and so, yes, you've maybe seen more than most of us. But every person I ever talked to who had depression said one thing to me: "You just can't compare it to anything else unless you've had it".

    If you actually read the first 4 pages of this thread and decided to post this short message which was (yes, we could actually debate that but I don't think that it'd really benefit anyone to debate it) insensitive... or you actually read next to nothing and decided to post this short comment... Whatever it was, didn't you for even ONE SECOND think that this isn't the right thing to post on this thread about depression (which - and you probably agree with me on this one - is a sensitive topic)?

    Funnily enough, this comes from a staff member of brawl, where the policy is to ban players with something like ddos in their name or mute players for writing in caps.

    What a nice way to show you have manners, also good day to you.


    If there's only one thing of what I wrote which sticks in your mind, please let it be this:
    Your first word ever which you choose to comment on a serious thread about depression was LOL. "Laughing out loud". If you can live with that, fine. Because I certainly couldn't.
     
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  3. Legolover

    Legolover Active Member

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    actually u can also mute the person if it's a minecraft server, as he says he wants to do XD
     
  4. kamil302

    kamil302 Well-Known Member

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    yeah man you can use that helpful /ignore command which works
     
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  5. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Ok, realtalk this time. I can understand both why people would support and dislike this thread. One side thinks its annoying, or that this is the wrong place to do it, and the other thinks that we shouldn’t be banning or muting or whatever based upon a depression post.
    My serious thoughts are (after reading all the comments of course) that while players should be allowed to voice their opinion or depression or whatever freely where they please, (except maybe work or something where its disruptive) they should understand the consequences of what and where they are posting. For example, the CTF community is extremely toxic to most people, particularly players funneling in from Brawl. A depressed person posting here is just asking for trouble, as much as we all like to think people are nice and understanding, we can be real jerks sometimes and with a community that spans every continent, theres is bound to be one or more people who get annoyed, offended, etc by something you say. So honestly, posting your depressed sadposts should be allowed, but don’t act surprised or defensive when people are assholes about it, because thats just the crappy nature of the community. You know what to expect. Just think before you post, thats for everyone.
    ~Nuc

    Edit: Seems there is a very loud minority and a quiet majority.
     
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    Exactly, it's completely unnecessary for this. I'm not saying this to **** on people with depression or any mental disorder, but why make it public? Specifically, why on minecraft?
     
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  7. Removers

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    Did you guys know, not everyone is the same and everyone has their own way of dealing, own needs, own preferences and not everyone is going to do the exact same as others :grinning:DDD Just to inform you hope this was a helpful post!!!
     
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  8. tallscot

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    wtf I got forums banned for saying that **** man this game's rigged

    anyways saying stuff shouldn't be punishable unless it's spammed or offensive. if somebody doesn't have anybody to talk to except for the Minecraft server that they play on (whether it be issues irl that's deciding this) they shouldn't be putting it in main chat, but just ignore them if they seem like they're trolling.
     
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  9. ACE_BLUE2

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    A public Minecraft chat isn't a "friend or someone to be there for them".
     
  10. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    You obviously do not understand what I mean...
     
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  11. Spades_

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    Or they're someone who is just looking for attention? More often than not someone who spams the chat (pretty sure this thread is about punishing people who spam depression and suicide talk in chat) with anything, whether it be suicide or something else, wants a reaction and attention from other people. Quite a bit of personal stuff being thrown around by a number of people, and frankly most of this isn't really on topic.

    If someone is spamming depressing comments, and talks of suicide, they should be given the standard procedure for anyone spamming the chat. If anyone has ever been in game with someone who is spamming suicide talks, it's really uncomfortable. It was so obvious the person was faking it too "HeLlpp I jusSTt oveRrr doseddDdd! Ahhgggg I'm dyInggGg.... dhabxkan" 20 mins later they're still playing, and every time someone gave them attention they started back up again.

    9/10 someone who is depressed won't spam the chat with it. Noticing someone is depressed is more about recognizing subtle changes, or drastic changes in a person's behavior and attitude. Simple solution: someone starts writing suicide messages in chat, a mod, JMod or whatever warns them not to spam the chat with it, and offers to talk to them about what's going on.
     
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    I mean it's not really the right place to talk about it. But making it punishable simply sounds dumb and unnecessary.
     
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  13. Removers

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    ofc there is people like that, I didn't say there wasn't did I?
    Some people however are going to be serious and actually type things in chat either because 1. They don't think straight on what they are doing 2. They want the attention for HELP and someone to talk to that will actually be a friend or a distraction... When depressed a lot of people lack self control on what they do which is obvious considering some people end up lacking control over suicide... I wasn't talking about the people that fake it, the people that fake it are horrible. So again you still obviously don't understand what I mean lmao
     
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  14. Spades_

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    Do you understand? The point of the thread is discussing whether or not spamming the chat with suicidal messages should be a reportable offfense. I don't think you've given a straight answer, so how about you make it realllllly simple for me (because clearly I'm incapable of understanding your complex thought) should people be punished for spamming chat with suicidal messages? Yes or no, and why.
     
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    This thread is about multiple things to didn't depression now, not just making it a reportable offense. i don't think it's fair to flame removers for that when other people have to slightly off topic as well.
     
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  16. Fista

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  17. kamil302

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    LOL its minecraft get over it.
     
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  18. Removers

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    :facepalm: if you want my opinion on the actual topic I've already stated it beforehand >_<
    and honestly punishing people for saying anything like that is pretty stupid and not needed whatsoever.

    I was said what I said quoting your brother because he said to call for professional help instead of talking about it a Minecraft chat, which isn't what everyone wants, professional help sometimes just makes the situation worse for others and it is clear to see why that would make things worse, what I said is sometimes the actual people that are legit depressed saying things in chat just need a friend and someone to talk and distract them from what is going on in their life, I honestly don't know how to make it more clear that I wasn't on about the threads full topic and more of a sub-part of the thread that is still in some form of context to it. >_< :facepalm:
     
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  19. CommunistBelgian

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    This last part is actually so very true. People who have never experienced a depression don't know what it's like to be in such a state of mind. We all have a friend or someone in our environment who lowkey / highkey feels like this and if you are a good friend you talk to them and try to help them.

    However, going to professional help is in fact often seen as a good thing, because the psychologist would be able to make things better. That I must disagree with, They are trained to let things loose and try their best to push you in the right direction. There's absolutely no guarantee the person will recover from this state of mind. We also cannot overlook it takes a lot of courage to go to a psychologist and to admit to yourself that you are in need of help. It's a typical human characterisic of being in denial when in need of help. It's also a psychological step they take, as soon as you step into that psychologist's workroom you know everyone in your environment is going to start treating you differently, like you are a special kid that needs special attention in order to become happy again (not always the case, scenario-based).

    Point is: Mineman chat is not the best place, but making it bannable / reportable is like one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this forum. There's absolutely no need to punish someone for trying to find 'help' in the 'wrong' place, why not just ignore it? I mean there's people constantly ****talking eachother in /all and whatsoever, I would rather find that annoying than a poor lad, legit or fake I can't tell, trying to find a friend to talk to.
     
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    Mod fight, mod fight
     
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