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Idea Banner to Wool

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Ugianskis, Jan 21, 2018.

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Should the Banner be replaced with Wool

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  2. Mabye +0

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  1. Ugianskis

    Ugianskis Member

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    I don't know if this is a repeated thread cause I'm kinda new to fourms and i didn't wanna search all 50 pages for it. If it is let me know so I can delete it.

    I think that we should change the Banner on your head to the wool flying. The wool looks better and fancier the just a banner and the banner is bland it's kinda boring. The wool was fun and it looked cool while you ran. Also when u have the flag and a banner is on your head in F5 mode it blocks a good part of your view. The wool doesn't do that.
    -Ugianskis
     
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  2. fatmog

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    Banners are a newer thing in minecraft and it looks worse on a player compared to flying wool. what the ****
     
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    Aside from the aesthetics, I’m inclined to like this idea solely for the nostalgia. Many years ago when I played CTF daily I got used to the wool. It was quick, easy and fun.

    Currently I wouldn’t consider this one of the more important changes needed in CTF, though it’s simple enough to do.

    +1.

    EDIT

    To sum up what I'm saying -
    I think bringing back the wool block would be a good change, as it brings things back to being cosmetic. The banner has advantages and disadvantages, but what we really want is smooth gameplay where we don't have to worry about dying because someone saw the flag from across the map, or having less armour, or not being able to see in third person.

    This could bring some positives, but as of right now it's not a change that CTF really needs to become the game it was.
    If anybody is interested, we've been discussing options on the CTF chat in the community Discord. Feel free to take a look at our ideas and contribute as much as you'd like.
     
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  4. CommunistBelgian

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    I think it's time to leave wool behind and actually focus on what really needs to be changed.
     
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    lool #BringBackWool.

    never thought I'd say this, but in this one case the banner improves the gameplay from a recoverer's perspective: in a large crowd of minecrafters its sometimes hard to find the flag carrier with flying wool, but with a huge banner on the carrier's head its easy to find them.

    from a capper's perspective, yea the view being blocked in f5 is a big issue, and you also have less armor since the helmet gets replaced.

    maybe instead of a banner replacing the helmet slot, why not use a wool block? Not blocking your view, still easy to recognize. Just looks ****
     
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  6. kamil302

    kamil302 Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
     
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  7. fatmog

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    Under every forum post we have a stupid rectangular box which contains a thumbs up, a check, a laughing kid, a heart, a rainbow, the nobel peace prize, a help emoticon, a tool, and a stick.

    Instead of replying with "I agree," you could click on that green mark and it will show that you agree with the post it lies under.
     
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  8. EmperorTrump45

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    this thread is 2 years late
     
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  9. Ugianskis

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    Not a wool block on your head the small wool blocks that fly out like in mcctf u didn't have a wool head u just had magic wool flying out.
     
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    The “magic will that flys out” doesn’t take away the helmet. Wool on head would still take away the helmet like banner
     
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    Isn't there a mod someone made to replace it with flying wool?
     
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    Tell me now
     
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    Agreed.

    I still think wool is considerably better than banners even though it was changed 2 and a half years ago. There was no reason to change it, everyone hated it, but everyone's gotten used to it. People shouldn't be forced to just get used to a change. That being said, there are more important things that could be done - thanks to @Totom3's fix, banners are no longer a big deal.
    Could be mitigated by making the wool blocks bigger.
     
  16. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I'm sure not everyone has gotten used to the banners, but I'd be confident saying the majority have learned to live with them.

    I feel as though the banners, even though they get so much hate, are fairly helpful (except the fact you lose armor points). It's a lot easier to see who has the flag in a group of people, and it definitely helps recovery with being able to identify who the flag carrier is and where the carrier has gone. Sure, wool would be good for nostalgia's sake, but I think overall the banner is better for gameplay (minus losing the helmet and F5 being somewhat blocked).
     
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    The only thing I don't like about banners are the armour loss and there's a larger delay to picking up the flag than there was on mcpvp.
     
  18. Ugianskis

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    I think that ya sure they are helpful for defence but way harder for offence. They block F5 Wich is terrible for assassin's and they take away armour and for a class like chemist is terrible because it's weak already but when your helmet is gone you die so quickly. Also it makes you stand out like a beacon unless you double click it and glitching it off your head. It also is way harder to hide from archers when they just see the banner and shoot it. I think there are pros and cons. All in all I think it should be up to the community. We should put a vote in game kinda like the do you like this map thing. So people can vote.
     
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  19. TheZombieKat

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    Looking at the fact that pyro isn't instakill, in my opinion, the fact the banner makes you a beacon is balanced. Since a class like a soldier can get out of the flagroom (sometimes taking very little damage), the team often has to rely on recovery. Being able to see who is holding the flag helps the recovery role, but also improves the skill of people trying to cap. Having your whereabouts known by anyone trying to recover can increase you skill in dodging and keeping yourself alive. This is just my opinion though, so who knows if this is even true.
     
  20. Ugianskis

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    Ok I agree but first it's rare a soldier gets out w/o taking damage in matches Second I don't think having less armour increases skill I think it just let's you die faster/ makes you steak spam/pot spam more also your making it harder for offence but what about the challenge for defence following the guy with the wool it gives defence a chance to get better at focusing 1 person.
     
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