Idea NECRO ReWOk ft. KEEMSTAR #Memez

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NECRO REWORK

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**DISCLAIMER:**
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None of the damage or healing or ****ing whatever abilities have been tested so the exact numbers are subject to change.
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Background:
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The Necro is a depraved soul from a time long past who never gets buffed. He is completely without emotion, without sympathy, and without kindness. His only purpose is to enslave souls in his undead army for map domination - and to finally answer the question: WHO IS THE REAL GLORIA BORGER???
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Other bull****:
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-Necro functions as an anti-tank support. Heavily focused on crowd control
-Squishy in skeleton or wither skeleton forms. Extremely susceptible to burst from almost every class
-Low damage, but very good at locking down single targets
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CLOTHES:
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Leather helmet
Diamond chestplate
Chainmail leggings
Iron boots

dude looks like a ****ing hobo lol
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Danks & Memes:
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Diamond Shovel
Wooden Sword (quarterstaff)
Rotten flesh x 4 (heal for half the value of steak - or 2 hearts)
Golden ingot
Bone
Wither head
Compass
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Abilitiezzzz:

Soul Furnace (Human form ONLY):
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Necro gains 1 rotten flesh for every enemy he has killed.
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Gravedigger (Human form ONLY):
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Diamond shovel enchanted. Deals 40% of target's current health (+40% their armor) as true damage. Heals Necro for equivalent amount. Critting with this ability will also give the target slowness IV for 1 second.

Cooldown: 3 seconds.
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Call of the Undead (formerly Gloria Borger generator):
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right click gold ingot to create an explosion within a 7 block radius. Explosion knocks back all enemies same distance as knockback I. Spawns 2 Gloria Borgers zombie pigmen with speed III (7.5 hearts health per pigman). Pigmen target whoever the Necro is fighting & follow him everywhere. Useful for diversions and being a pain in the ass.

Cooldown: 10 seconds.
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No Escape (Skeleton Form):
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Inventory:

Bow
Wooden Sword
5 arrows
Compass

right click bone to turn into a skeleton for as long as you ****ing want. gain an enchanted bow, 5 arrows, 500 grams of WEED and you lose all your armor except a cloth chestplate so this isn't busted. Hitting enemies with arrows affects them with reverse knockback (drags them closer to you). Strength of the knockback is increased depending on how far away the enemy is. Arrows regen 1 per 3 seconds while out of Skeleton form.

(examples)

at 1-10 blocks: reverse knockback I
15: reverse knockback II
20+: reverse knockback III

targets hit by arrows receive a decaying slow of slowness IV -> I over 2 seconds
Necro gains speed 1 while in skeleton form

Cooldown (for form shift): none

Right click again to turn back into dude form.
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Nowhere to Hide (Wither Skeleton form):
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Wither Skeleton form inventory:

Stone Axe
Stick
Compass

wither head, yeah it's a mother****ing wither head. right click it to turn into wither skeleton. Gain stone axe but lose your sword (armor is changed to grey dyed leather armor). Right click axe to throw (range = 12 blocks). Targets hit by the axe are grounded. Grounded targets cannot use teleport, blinks (ninja pearls), or fly (soldier, elf). Effect lasts 3 seconds. Axe is removed from inventory for the duration and regens 3 seconds later (regens in same time if you miss). Cannot be used for pvp

Enemies hit by your basic attacks in this form receive wither I

Cooldown (for form shift): none

right click again to turn back into Chris Pratt (ur handsome af)
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PASSIVE: The Meme Reaper
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Necro stores the heads of enemies that he's killed. Activating the Gloria Borger generator spawns 3 additional Gloria Borgers zombie pigmen. The generator will always spawn at least 2, however, regardless of how many kills the Necro does/doesn't have

Necro can store as many heads as he wants. However he can only have 3 additional pigmen (maximum 5) on the field at any time.​

 

Archer is not a support. So that's one difference

It doesn't matter if classes are squishy or tanky as long as they are fun and engaging to play (current, tanky Necro, isn't). If squishiness or tankiness is too much of an issue that can be changed.
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Untrue. Original necro, the "secret class" had identical armor to what I've posted. It just had really high dps so tankiness/lack of tankiness wasn't an issue.

Multiple ways to crowd control people which are unique to Necro and not mage. Also Mage has an emphasis on midfielding and chasing down kills. Necro can switch between long and short ranged and lock down enemies in any situation

It's almost like Elf is a class.

The cooldown and power are not too strong. The % armor damage is actually too low, I changed it to 40% (at 25% you only do 2.5 hearts true damage to Heavy) for additional healing and damage. The point being that Necro should shred tank classes, in order to get kills (to get more mobs) or to make it easier for more damage heavy champions to do the same.

They would die. Although you would not gain rotten flesh from killing your own pigmen - only when enemies kill them.

What they traditionally spawn with, a gold sword. I don't want to make them particularly powerful, more annoying than anything else.

It is a knockback.

Pigmen target whoever Necro targets. Again Necro is focused around locking down single targets (primarily). Ideally I'd like to change this but with how bad mob AI is I don't know how to work it any better than with clunky controls like this

/shrug

Yes. I also added speed 1 to this form due to the squishiness.

It could be. I'm not getting into highly specific numbers because this is all on paper. It would have to be tested on a server or in game to see how it works and whether or not anything in this rework actually works well.

The forms have no cooldown because waiting several seconds to switch from one form to the next defeats the point of the class. The abilities from each form work together and in order to effectively do what the class is supposed to do there can't be a cooldown between form shifts. This also adds a lot of versatility to the class because you can instantly change abilities depending on the situation (which is also what allows this Necro to be good for recovery and maybe capturing).

Yes

What do you think

I'll probably change the Wither Skeleton form a little bit, the wither feels kinda random but I guess it could work well with Gravedigger for pvp.

I don't know. That would have to be tested.

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Look at the inventories for Skeleton and Wither Skeleton and tell me if there is a gold ingot in either one.

I could have made this clearer but yes, only in human form.

No

I'm not getting into a bunch of nitpicky specifics when it's on paper. There's already a number of details provided, if I add too many stats it's hard to say whether even most of them would make any sense. i.e. disclaimer

You have a point in terms of complexity, some of the abilities have a bunch of effects which aren't immediately obvious (but then again, so does Elf and Mage). How would you simplify it.

I don't see how synergy is limited, particularly between Gravedigger and the skeleton/wither skeleton forms. You can chain 2 slows and a grounding effect together, for example. That crowd controls people for a very long time.

You're right it can be complicated to use this Necro well. But I think the abilities do good on their own and that having a class which rewards repeated use is a good thing.

Disagree. There are multiple roles/tools that this Necro can provide in the game and they are not redundant because Mage freeze spell.

You're not actually turning into a skeleton or a wither skeleton, it's just a change in items and abilities. It already does what you want it to do. As for the "clutter and over-complication", I do have a tendency to do that. This is a premium class though so it doesn't need to be that simple, since not even that many people will be playing it in the first place - and those who will are most likely players with some experience (and ideally, premiums should offer more features in their kits). That said, what would you change to make things a little simpler?

The idea of an anti tank support class, that can shift from short to long ranged at any time, and is almost exclusively focused on crowd control (recovery, offense, defense, etc.) isn't unique? It's not a damage dealing midranged carry like Mage.

/shrug good to have a variety of opinions I guess

 

Okay

Disagree. Archer is a marksman, not a support. The class function is completely different
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/shrug

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Agreed. Like I said, it's impossible to be certain whether or not something on paper is actually going to be as good as you think in game. Especially with clunky Minecraft mechanics etc. etc.
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That's a fair assessment. Although I think the wither and skeleton forms are somewhat similar. And sure, you could throw away the whole 'form' thing entirely since you literally just get 1 ability from each form (and pretty much nothing else)
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Yeah I have no idea if the current damage/healing values are too high. The ones I had previously felt too low, however.
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Yes. I was thinking of something else when I wrote my earlier reply (some other idea revolving around gaining rotten flesh from pigmen dying, idk)
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Yep.
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I don't know. It would have to be tested. If what I have is too clunky then maybe a mechanic could be added where Necro could (somehow) target several players at once and be more annoying that way. idk Pigmen aren't as stupid as zombies so it should work out better than current Necro, at the very least
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Depends on how ridiculous it'd be. Mobs follow you everywhere so even if you couldn't trigger them in a flagroom you could still bring them with you.
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Zombie form is lame
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you have no idea how boring it is writing threads without memes

yep

Sure it's skill intensive but the abilities work well enough on their own.

It's crowd control

I didn't say that it *should* be complicated because it's a premium class, only that it's not as much of an issue because it's a premium class because less people will be playing it (etc. etc.)

I don't know if it's 3 classes in 1. They're all supposed to work together (and they do) and neither of the two forms can work independently, either due to lack of damage/defense or squishiness. It's not that different from what you have in your rework, as far as 'Necro gains or loses abilities by changing forms' tbh

I don't want to remove that because it works really well with Gravedigger & the grounding effect. Makes for some interesting gameplay which has been lacking from Necro for a very long time. Also makes the class more rewarding to play for people who have been using it for a very long time and as long as the skill floor isn't too high (Elf) high skill ceilings make classes more fun and exciting. That's why even though not that many people play Elf the few who do have a ton of time on it because they're using the class to its fullest extent

That said, I agree with some of your proposed hotbar changes. I do think that would streamline things a bit while allowing this Necro to function in pretty much the same way. But if that was changed I'd also lower the armor (I changed it to ~7/10) because the squishiness penalty for shifting forms would no longer be there.