(Almost) Everything Wrong with CTF in 752 Words

That's more words than cells in my brain

 

No you're just dumb :3

 

The moderators are part of the "Big Brawl" political establishment that is trying to brainwash us into accepting endless nerfs, zero community representation, and Orwellian thought control. Are we going to stand for this??? No I say no!

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

 

Heavy rarely used other than by new players? Have you played current ctf?*sarcasm*
Anyway,
I kinda agree with smaller maps but those come with their own set of problems. Larger maps have more diverse and spread out action and gameplay but it takes longer to do much of anything, while smaller maps have quicker and more fast-paced gameplay but you cant take 3 steps without being headshot or attacked by 10 people. A balance of small and large maps is better than just having all the maps small.

Brawl really does need to update to 1.9, 1.10, 1.11 ect, and CTF is no different. I get people don't like the combat update and blah blah blah but we're losing out on a potentially large wave of newer players because they most likely updated. The cooldowns can be disabled so don't cry about "the cooldown ruins pvp" 1.9 also allows quick and easy customization with both pvp dynamics, environmental effects, and custom texturing. New blocks added in 1.9-1.10 will also let ctf maps feel more unique and not the same stone castle by a river.

 

But...

As of the rest of this post, count your blessings! Some might say CTF isn't really a blessing, but I think otherwise. Hey, at least CTF is still here...

 

While I respect you char, I always seem to disagree with you on a fundamental level. This post was no exception, and it's just the most interesting thing to me. I wish you could hold up better in debates cause I really wanna pick that brain.

 

Wow, you counted the words in your post... That is an achievement. I applaud you. Most people can't do that. You have truly done good.

 

It's definitely an interesting take on the situation. You do bring up some good points, and although it isn't anywhere near the whole story, it's got a lot of content for 752 words

 

So you're saying that no one likes to play as a buffed heavy? On the other hand, I really think CTF should take advantage of 1.9 combat. Maybe some classes have cool downs while others don't?

 

I was kind of thinking about what you said. like maybe the flag carrier could have that new glow effect, so new players and midfielders would at least have some reason to go and check it out. Not to mention this would help both support and recovery find the other player faster.

And with the cooldowns, possibly we could still have cooldowns for certain classes, such as if dwarf gets no change, you could just keep that annoyingly long cooldown, and heavy where otherwise its just annoying to fight. But classes like ninja would have significantly less or no cooldown, as it both fits with the class and the survivability of one.

Assassin would need to be changed, as shields in 1.9 pvp don't necessarily work the same way as blocking does atm, and even if you block with a shield you'll die to the assassin, but there is plenty of rework ideas to choose from for assassin.
Mage would also need to be fixed (regrettably) as its DPS would suddenly be significantly higher comparably to classes that get the cooldown and would tear them to shreds.

If we could find out a way to make sure you weren't immediately banned when using a elytra for flyhacking, a class could possibly be made around that, but that would have to come after everything is fixed.

 

"1.9", you will lose people, no one plays on 1.9 thats bs. All big servers are able to use 1.7-1.8. 1.9-1.11 would be the death of all of CTF. *sarcasm but it still sucks.

 

Sure.

Here is where I would do the exact opposite. I would make it so that every class could play every role, and here is why.

I believe none of these things make classes anymore fun. High Damage is essentially irrelevant if your rebuilding ctf from the ground up. Same with low armor. High Survivability is also problematic, but I'll avoid going to far into detail about that.

What I believe is actually fun is for players is to have options. When a player is able to recognize a situation and have the tools to interact with it and utilize them to solve a problem is essentially what is fun for them. Recognizing the same situation over and over and applying the same tools causes stagnation. So to make a truly fun game. There must be a large amount of depth to explore, and one sure way to make sure every class has depth is too make sure they can preform in all roles in ctf.

 

CTF is already compatible with 1.9

 

It's compatible yes but not actually in 1.9. You cannot use the new pvp dynamics or the new items/blocks used. This goes with all of Brawl, not just CTF. Brawl is also compatible with 1.10 and maybe 1.11/1.11.2

 

Brawl hasn't been updated to even just 1.9 yet because both the staff and the community are all changeophobics.

 

There's a difference between having options and having an answer to every single situation no matter what position you're in. What I think @Cher_ is getting at is that there are a bunch of classes that can succeed in situations that they really shouldn't succeed in. While I think that most classes should be able to serve a purpose in each of the general offense/defense/recovery states of the game, they should all go about it in a different way. For example, say you need to recover a flag from a Medic/Heavy duo camping Spawn on Blackout. Using an Archer and an Assassin, you have the Archer start shooting arrows from the middle roof to knock the Medic away from the Heavy and to threaten both of them with the possibility of an Instant Kill. While they're busy trying to dodge the arrows, the Assassin drops down from above spawn and instant kills the Heavy, recovering the flag and saving America. Of course in a real game it's not as simple as that, but it illustrates my point.

While both these characters served a purpose in recovery, they went about it in different methods. This is how any team-based game should work. Every player has a different job to do in order to complete a shared objective.

The funny thing about this post is that I actually logged on to Brawl for the first time in months because I wanted to discuss my thoughts about this game. I actually have a lot of the same ideas as OP, and I guess it's just a viewpoint we share as people who play CTF on/off rather than our primary game.

 

I did not read much of this but if we switch to 1.9 pvp I am going to kill myself

 

same 1.9 PvP is poop... It drives me nutters xD