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Idea [Idea everyone likes but hasn't been implemented yet for some reason] Soldier wallclimb pool

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by AdamLovesBarca, May 23, 2015.

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  1. AdamLovesBarca

    AdamLovesBarca CTF player | Original MCPVPer

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    This has been suggested many times on MCPVP, but has never been implemented unfortunetly...

    Here we go:

    Soldier wallclimb pool:
    The pool could be shown on the iron sword's durability.
    An Iron sword has a durability of 251 before it brakes. Let's do some maths here.
    Let's say we want soldier to have 12 wallclimbs maximum (this can be changed, just suggest in the comments). 251/12 = 23.4166666667, which is 23.42 rounded to 2 d.p.
    This means every wallclimb, the swords durability would go down by 23.4166666667.


    When Soldiers sword gets to 0, it will break and start regenerating (the sword would still be in Soldier's inventory for him to atleast defend himself.) It can't be regenerated anyhow, you just have to wait till you get to 0. Medic's heal abbility always works.
    In the regenerating phace, Soldier can't wallclimb. The sword would take 6 seconds to regenerate fully. After that, Soldier has another 12 wallclimbs.

    For this to work, Swords need to be made that their durability doesn't go down after a hit to a block/player. This can be only done for Soldier, doesn't need to be added for each and every class.

    Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    I like it but 6 second is a long wait maybe 4
     
  3. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    I have an idea for a soldier nerf that would be a lot simpler and easy to understand. Currently working on recreating it however, so I haven't made a post yet.
     
  4. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Interesting approach, definitely worth thinking about.

    I like your calculations.
     
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  5. Hugmaster

    Hugmaster Well-Known Member

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    If you work with the durability of the sword, just keep in mind that soldier doesn't only wallclimb but also fights. So maybe change it a bit that soldier can fight when he used his 12 wallclimbs.
     
  6. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Wall climbing, fighting, and killing.....all at the same time. I dig it.

    As long as one of his hands is free to hold his Orange Crush.
     
  7. furtles

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    I don't like this idea, because soldier is unchanged for 12 wallclimbs, then it completely loses it's ability.
     
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  8. Snowleak14

    Snowleak14 Well-Known Member

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    There is no need for a soldier nerf. It has been nerfed with the flagpoison change and by removing the maps it can shine one. It is not the strongest capping class and this would basically destroy it's entire viability. Soldier should stay as it is, because it's one of the more balanced classes we have. Solo recovering from a soldier is possible while not extremely hard or extremely easy. And yes if the soldier wallclimbs on things to escape from death than that is his right. Most of the times soldiers can't reach their own side of the map because they can get wrecked in the flagroom and outside. They need help to survive mostly and yes if you let a soldier get away and he gets too his own side and he has support from his team yes then he can become really hard to kill, but you shouldn't let him get their in the first place. I still do not see why people still complain about soldier being op. I just gives me the feeling people can't deal with it because they try to recover on their own every time, well maybe you need to use teamwork for once. If the other team can use teamwork while protecting a flag carrier then maybe you can use teamwork to recover from that flagcarrier.
     
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  9. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    @Snowleak14 The problem is, it's basically impossible to kill on your own. No other class takes teamwork to recover on. Even with support, chemist, which is op af, can be killed by one person. The wall climb ability is op, it's the only class that can do it, with the exception of elf. Soldiers can three shot elves tho :x
     
  10. Snowleak14

    Snowleak14 Well-Known Member

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    No it's not lol
     
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  11. furtles

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    Sure, if the soldier is extremely bad. When I play soldier, I hardly ever die unless I don't make it out of flag or get headshot. (Both of which require teamwork) Sure, after a while, I'll run out of health, but that's because there's a bunch of people beating on me. Also, it is very rare that no one will spawn for 3 seconds to heal me.
     
  12. Snowleak14

    Snowleak14 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you need to stop playing on z29 then
     
  13. Soundkld

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    It's the "Pr0 Ninja Rec0v since 2011" butthurt players who can't deal with soldiers.

    Anyways, I like this +1
     
  14. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    I play on a1, same as you. There aren't even hardly any other servers so...
     
  15. dukeisawesome12

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    ew no pls
     
  16. Recovs

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    I understand how wall spamming can be annoying and how you want to lower the wallclimb pool. However, that's pretty much the only way soldier can escape most classes. I don't agree on lowering its wallclimb ability to a limit. Perhaps reducing the steak limit from 4 to 3? idk just a thought, not a suggestion.
     
  17. Lujiu

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    I think soldiers fine just how it is.
     
  18. Erran

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    lol
     
  19. bestMaddie

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    5 seconds for soliders are okay. Longer than that, not okay
     
  20. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    5SOS!!!111!1 (5 Seconds of Soldier) :3
     
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