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CTF Class tier list

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by earthman888, Jun 13, 2015.

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  1. RHCube

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    Mage: Still, it has very low armor. The only spells that recharge quickly are flame and damage. Also, mage is one of the few classes that actually takes skill.
    Dwarf: Dwarf should be at least in tier B. A high-level dwarf is near impossible to kill, even by mages.
    Assassin: Assassin is definitely not as weak as elf though. The instakill is also ping-based.
    I don't really play HG either.
     
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  2. Shawn_

    Shawn_ Playing CTF and making maps since 2012

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    I tried out assassin today, and I think Nom fixed it. Confirmation @NomNuggetNom?
     
  3. ProfessorAfro

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    Spell spamming isn't a real problem soooo

    Seeing Mage and Archer in "S" tier had me crying. A class (with a instakill) but a relatively low defense and other weapons being A: a stone sword and B: a Punch II bow shouldn't planted over a class like chemist.

    The focus of the list might be to observe who needs nerfs or not but the way the list is build is the real problem.

    This list is built around who gets the most kills, not who performs the best on their own in CTF, not TDM. People seem to forget that CTF is about capping a flag and not about "look at mah ks!1!1" I have seen archers that have gone 43-2 but that doesn't mean anything when their team is down 3 caps and that archer is just picking on the same group of people. The other class that would need a immediate "buff or nerf" is a class that can either

    Have the ability to Capture, Defend and Kill at untouchable levels
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    Sturdy enough to tank nearly every single class and still come out on top

    Don't drive too far from the focus of CTF, this list would be fine if this was a TDM server but its not.
     
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  4. earthman888

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    I have said this many times before. The list really only has my expeiriences so far. I would be grateful if you gave me more insight due to the fact that I need more people's experiences in order to make the list more accurate.
     
  5. Sir_Inge

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    Woah woah woah I get that I'm good at Mage, but Mage is not OP. Mage spells, to an untrained player, miss almost 25-50% of the time. Add that to a fragile class, and you get a high learning curve quite balanced class. Now, mages that are good are really good, almost unstoppable at times, but in reality that's not the majority of mages. @Tysonyoshi is a heavy beast, but not all heavies are like him. Good luck capping with @Sibs on defense as ninja. Not all ninjas are that good.
     
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  6. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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  7. Shawn_

    Shawn_ Playing CTF and making maps since 2012

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    I kinda have to agree with earthman, because you can barely get any kills with your minions unless there's this one assassin or ninja that's constantly running into your minions. I think that the minions should be stronger, but have more time to spawn more.
     
  8. RHCube

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    I agree with mage but not Archer. Instakills are why CTF is broken.
     
  9. ProfessorAfro

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    I don't care what you agree with. These are facts not opinions.
    Plus if you think ctf is broken, you don't know what broken is. I have played games hella worse than this and this game isn't like one of those games.

    Also rating my argument funny doesn't make you any less wrong
     
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  10. RHCube

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    Try playing something other than an instakills class for once, and try playing AGAINST an instakills. You are the one who doesn't know what broken is. CTF has been broken for a while.
     
  11. Hanatamago_San

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    Well, at the end of the day, a tier list in this format is inherently wrong. The rankings of each class change with the perspective of the person playing it. For a Archer, a Mage could justifiably be considered S tier, whereas a Chemist may even be C tier. Class counters are stellar, and could shape a tier list in their own sort of way, but if you really want to make an effective tier list, go with what stake said and base it off of the class roles: capping, recovering, defense, etc.
     
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  12. ProfessorAfro

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    What is mage.
    I'm gonna leave, call back when you have a actual point or when you are done rating all my posts funny.
     
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  13. lasertagfighter

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    Assassinate can kill lots of ppl with one assassinate. My best was 4 kills with on assassinate. Blocking should stay cuz it is imposible to survive an assassins instakill.
    You can assassinate off of buildings btw, like 40+ blocks high >:3
     
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  14. seDrakonkill

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    Frock how do I delete this
    Posted it than was like nah that's to off topic. If this is still up when someone sees it can you delete this if you have the power?
     
  15. StealthSpy007

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    The first time I played Mage I got 21 kills and 7 deaths.

    And no one is complaining about engineers! For once.....
    assassin and pyro are the beasts at ctf. Pyro should be damage boost for you and your teammates for an enemy on fire. Assassin should die when it does assassinate from 8 blocks or more
     
  16. earthman888

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    Thank you. Necro gets better by letting your minions kills stuff. However, they can never kill stuff! They are too slow and their attack power is nothing special. It seriously needs a buff for the zombies. Or at least let your own kills count as zombie kills so that you can level up a bit more easily.

    Tier lst progress:
    • Dwarf has been moved to B tier due to it's flag defending skills
    • Chemist is being considered for S tier due to it's flag capturing skills
    Please vioce your input on the decisions.
     
  17. RHCube

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    That doesn't even make sense. You need to try playing something other than an instakill class for once.
    Dwarf should be at least tier A. A high-level dwarf is almost impossible to kill. The only downside to dwarf is that it's only good for flag-camping. Assassin should be at least tier A. An assassin can easily kill an entire flag room. It's annoying to constantly check f5. Also, the counter is ping-based: If they have a better ping than you, or if you lag even a little, you're dead. And mage should be A. The healing has a long cooldown, it is hard to hit a STRAFING player, and the armor is the third weakest in the game.
     
  18. ProfessorAfro

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    Mage isn't instakill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  19. RHCube

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    *facepalm*
    I wasn't talking about mage.
     
  20. earthman888

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    Any other suggestions?
     
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