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Necro: Broken?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by draco638, Jun 22, 2015.

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  1. draco638

    draco638 Active Member

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    I don't know if this is an old thing or a new thing. I am perfectly accepting of bugs in the new CTF, and I just hope they get fixed. All I know is that it's annoying as heck. It's the Zombie AI/Snowballing.

    First off, the AI really bugging me. The zombies take forever to lock onto a target. Sometimes an enemy will pass right next to them and they don't immediately lock on, or they don't even notice at all. This is making it extremely annoying and incredibly difficult to get the 4 kills I need to get skeletons. I've had max 1 kill by a minion. I've placed spawners both defensively and offensively, and even if they last the whole game, I don't get much reward. That leads me right into the 2nd point: the snowballing. I get that necro used to be unbearable if its uncapped snowball mechanic got too high, but now it just seems like it doesn't buff at all. The zombies are incredibly slow and can be outrun easily, even when they get their speed buff. They just seem practically unable to kill anything unless its a vulnerable assassin or the random few-hearts-left player. They just can't deal significant damage or have enough speed to be a threat.

    Now, a couple fixes to this could be:

    1. Increase speed/damage

    2. Improve the AI

    3. Let the necro's own kills count towards the improvement

    4. Create a sort of beacon that calls all zombies to you and attack who you attack. This make for better necro tactics than "drop-and-run" or "pray that the defenses give you a kill"

    I'm sorry if this seems like an angry rant, but I just wanted to voice what I was noticing and find if this is a bug or not.

    Thanks,
    Draco
     
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    #1 draco638, Jun 22, 2015
  2. MineBrick12

    MineBrick12 Active Member

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    Although I'm steamed at having to chase two necros across the map three times back and forward to kill them, yeah, Necro needs a buff.
     
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    #2 MineBrick12, Jun 22, 2015
  3. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Fixing Necro's undeniable issues would be a step in the right direction, although I think a complete rework would be needed. Necro is extremely underpowered.
     
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    #3 SoCool21, Jun 22, 2015
  4. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    Necro needs to be buffed. In the old mcpvp ages Necro (If I remember correctly) spawned with zombies that had speed 2 and strength 2. These zombies would auto target members of the other team. This was a balanced time, but of course, BBH thought it was too OP because he kept dieing to one, so he nerfed the kit. I believe that was the best time. Anyone else?
     
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    #4 Turmac, Jun 22, 2015
  5. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    BBH hardly had any input on CTF. It was nerfed because it was too OP at the time.
     
    #5 SoCool21, Jun 22, 2015
  6. GreenNature

    GreenNature Nature is Creative

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    #6 GreenNature, Jun 22, 2015
  7. draco638

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    Eh, the capless zombies became horrifying and no one could stand up to them. They were a real problem. Those zombies needed to be nerfed badly, but not as severely as was implemented. (I mean, after about 5 minutes in a crowded area, there wouldn't be a crowded area anymore, just horrifying, unstoppable zombies.
     
    #7 draco638, Jun 22, 2015
  8. TheSpartan33

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    In this case, a rework would be better than straight out buffing the class again. I'd rather not have to endure 20 minutes of being chased by super-zombies/skeletons.
     
    #8 TheSpartan33, Jun 22, 2015
  9. asagod

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    AGREE AGREE AGREE AGREE!!!!!!!!! YOU GET A PENGUIN :penguin:
     
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    #9 asagod, Jun 22, 2015
  10. ContagiousBubble

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    Necro buff pls. It's so underpowered that it's pretty much impossible to nerf it.
     
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    #10 ContagiousBubble, Jun 22, 2015
  11. DanielSadjadi

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    "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead."

    -Jimmy Buffett

    Some people may or may not hate on me for using a senseless quote that I found on the internet, but you know what, you're wrong, because it means something. It means that you need to be less biased on this sort of thing, and open up to the possibilities of the necro class.

    Let's talk about uses for the necro class

    1. To take down engineer turrets because it has slightly better armor

    2. To brag that you used 2.50 cents on a pile of nothing

    Now lets talk about pros

    1. It might have a 1/10 chance of spawning a mini-zombie, which slightly damages
    the opponent, and might make them mad, but you know what, that's all gone, because that soldier just frickin 2 shot
    BASHED his head out of his body.

    Cons, anybody?

    1. Slow zombie spawn rate

    2. Poor zombie locking, zombies don't really have range out of 2-6 blocks.

    3. Zombies deal not much damage

    4. Zombies don't have really any protection

    5. Chances of spawning a small zombie are low

    6. Is it just me or did that spawn block just stop spawning zombies 1 minute in?

    7. Poor damage dealing sword

    8. Bad armor

    9. Bad/slow steak to armor and sword ratio.

    10. 2.50 for a 50 cent class.

    11. Turret is fairly easy to break

    12. Can easily be over powered by any other class

    Do I need to say more?
     
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    #11 DanielSadjadi, Jun 22, 2015
  12. CrystaliteRyuko

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    It was. I am not joking when I say this. Once on lighthouse, I was dwarf and had full health, a zombie came into our flagroom and one shot me. -_-
     
    #12 CrystaliteRyuko, Jun 24, 2015
  13. earthman888

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    I made a class tier list and necro was the only class in D tier. It needs a buff especially to the zombies that you start off with.
     
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    #13 earthman888, Jun 27, 2015
  14. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Necro is definitely the most useless class in the game. I honestly don't think there'd be any disadvantages with removing it for now.
     
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    #14 SoCool21, Jun 27, 2015
  15. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Necro could really use a buff, but I must add that Necro does have decent Armor, And enough steaks to heal off most of the damage done too it for quite some time. Plus it has more damage than a stone sword, and when buffed by a chemist is able to deal quite the amount of damage. If you know me as a necro, I do not play nice With Classes with armor lower than Soldier's.
     
    #15 ExtremeEvoboost, Jul 10, 2015
  16. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Problem is, Necro is a general PvP class if you play it like that (not your fault, I play it like that too). Necro using their spawner is 9 times out of 10 useless.
     
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    #16 SoCool21, Jul 10, 2015
  17. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Which is quite upsetting, As I loved necro before it turned into this crap that it is now.
     
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    #17 ExtremeEvoboost, Jul 10, 2015
  18. StealthSpy007

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