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Things that bother me the most

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Ducksfan101, Jun 29, 2015.

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What do you think is needed? (Please read the thread before making a vote)

  1. Just the beginner tutorial and not the hacker system

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  2. Just the hacker system and not the beginner tutorial

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  3. Both of these

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  4. None of these

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  1. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    Recently, most attempts at trying to cap have been ruined by many nubs. I don't want you to think this is giving me an advantage, which this isn't. This is an idea I came up with to teach new new people, nubs, what the rules are, what they do, etc. Most of the time, we have seen nubs take the flag and go to their spawn, which is not allowed, and dying and the flag being restored. I think this is something that everyone should know already through common sense. Anyways back to my idea. My idea is that we should make a beginners tutorial for the new people, and people that played less than 150 games, to show them what they can do and not do. I think this will really help people get used to this fast game and know what to do. WE can teach them to make smart decisions during the game to help make their team win. We can teach them the basics of the free class, if they buy premium classes they will have to figure it out on their own. This is most likely a bad idea, I just want to help the new people so the game is fair. I don't want new people ruining the game by stealing someones flag, because of death, going into spawn and ruining the chance to cap. I will be having a poll for this idea too to see your opinions.

    Next, I have seen hacker, in fact, TOO MANY HACKERS. and what Brawl needs to do is have a system to ban them ASAP or have an auto-ban system for the hackers. From FF to fast bow, hackers shouldn't be on CTF, PERIOD. I think that hackers are nubs that need these to win the game. I don't think it's fair to anyone that hackers can just come in and ruin the game and have no-one do anything about it. I will be having a poll for this as well.

    Just a reminder, I don't want this to seem I'm going this to give me a advantage. I just want everyone to play a fair game, without hackers, and nubs ruining the game, by going in their spawn with the flag. Thank you for reading this.

    Ducksfan101
     
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  2. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    I do agree with you here.
    I think we need a few tutorials and perhaps a book that tells the basics. The tutorials would be linked in chat, so you could click on them and you would be redirected to the video.

    However, there is 1 problem - who is going to make it?

    A few ideas for tutorials:
    1) Learning the basics of the game mode and flag sites, etc.

    2) Class spotlights - with tips for gameplay. (Approx. 1 minute)

    3) Capturing the flag - when to capture and how.

    4) Advanced strategies and tactics.
     
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  3. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    That is something I was looking at. I believe the veterans of CTF should make these because they have more experience than others. Idc if it's a book they have to look at before playing the game or a tutorial showing them visual how to do the things, I just want them to know.
     
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  4. Shawn_

    Shawn_ Playing CTF and making maps since 2012

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    CTF is still in Beta. They're probably gonna add this stuff eventually.
     
  5. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    It is impossible to have absolutely no hackers on there. We can never have so many staff members or so precise auto ban systems that hackers are instantly banned. Of course hackers are not fair, thats why we ban them.

    You claim nothing is being done to ban hackers, which is also false. We finished the command /report, we added a Slack Hacker Report Chat and we invented a new staff rank, Moderator, and all this only to ban hackers faster.
     
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  6. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know this information at first. Thank you for doing this.
     
  7. BAWSS5

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    So, uh, less than 150 games? That's, like, a lot. Just bring the books back, and that way, any noobs who keep being noobs by not reading the book are WILLING noobs and should be considered easy kills.

    Anyways, I'd like to bring up another topic. Why do hackers bother everybody so much? Like, seriously. What effect does it have in the long run if a guy has to cheat to beat you or to cap? Worse comes to worse, he proves that he's bad at a block game. And yes, I know, it *ruins the fun*, but fun is still relative. You can easily make it a challenge to beat the hacker and continue to have fun, instead of getting upset that somebody is bad at the game.

    Essentially, do continue to report hackers, but don't get your knickers in a twist over something so small. Not like you're losing any money or physical property over it.
     
  8. furtles

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    I think having a lobby would help. @Quarrelt mentioned this in a post at some point. She said that there were a lot of things to be done to make the gamemode more noob friendly.

    About the hackers, it's up to you to report them. Mods can only be on so much. You can record them, use /report, or use Slack.

     
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  9. Skarm

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    Write some signs in the hub world in the ctf building, each wing could be used to explain a different part of the game. I think this should be done to all games to keep consistency, and isn't a bad idea to educate new willing to learn players.

    ctf building =
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  10. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    In each map, there is already a how to play thing in the floaty box, just copy and paste.
     
  11. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    The reason hackers are a lot more prevelant on CTF is because of the lack of an autoban system on Brawl. With the acquisition of Knohax do you not plan on implementing the autoban system?
     
  12. furtles

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    I think they are 'working on it'.
     
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  13. Ducksfan101

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    This could work. But what i was think was take a CTF map, like an old one, and show visually how the game is played. I think they also need a new hub because that one is from GMOD.
     
  14. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    This would be nice, as would @Ducksfan101's idea, but do remember, Brawl is getting a new hub very soon. Is it really worth the effort?
     
  15. Shawn_

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    Yeah, they should make a tutorial like the one in TF2.
     
  16. SirPiro

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    This is really familiar. Think there was a similar thread on the old forums?
     
  17. Lord_Roke

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    I never said we wouldn't have an autoban system, I only clarified that there will always be hackers and that we are doing everything we can to ban them.
     
  18. DeZilla

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    I don't like hackers, hackers are bad =(
     
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  19. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    I also dont like hackers.
    i think maybe we can kill them more easy if the medics web them and then the assassins and archers can easily hs them
     
  20. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    I think that a tutorial system would be a very useful idea. I see people fairly frequently asking questions like "where's the flag?" or "what does the flag look like?" I answer them when I see them, but equally I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't get an answer and are still in the dark
     
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