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Idea A petition to get Pagodas back in the rotation

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Sir_Inge, Aug 4, 2015.

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Should we re-add pagodas to the rotation?

  1. Yes

    34 vote(s)
    81.0%
  2. No

    8 vote(s)
    19.0%
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  1. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Honestly the forums are for feedback, I don't think it needs an in-game system like this whatsoever. Noobs are forced to vote, meaning they could vote incorrectly or not put any thought into it. Instead, every month or so there should be a link broadcasted in CTF servers to a forum post which has a poll, where you have to select every map that you like. If maps get substantially less votes than others, they should get reworked. Unless if they are completely unfixable without starting over (such as Slums), it doesn't have to be removed permanently.
     
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  2. CrystaliteRyuko

    CrystaliteRyuko Well-Known Member

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    Here are some more pictures:
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  3. Flavorous

    Flavorous the help

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    I was following Quarrelt on Build today (A rare sight to see) and I stumbled across "Pagodas Symmetrical" - @Pavocado is obviously working on a new version of Pagodas that I can just about guarantee will be added into rotation. It is as the name puts it, and it's similar to what @Harima_And_Tenma posted above.
     
  4. Pavocado

    Pavocado Well-Known Member

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    Hey! So the reason that Pagodas was removed a while back was that it was quite low in the rankings (not as low as you might think though). I was working on a variation of Pagodas at the time to replace it as many people said it was solider OP, but it got removed before I had time to finish it.

    Flavorous was right - I have buit a Pagodas Symmetrical. It would need a bit of tweaking for archer protection before it could be considered to be released, but hopefully it shares a similar play as before, though that can't be guaranteed.

    Thank you all Pagodas lovers! You don't know how happy this makes me <3
     
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  5. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    I hate the ratings system because of this. I am undeniably the biggest lover of Pagodas and even I can tell that it's not %100 perfect. Playing pagodas was a bit different than most maps but as a recoverer Soldier seemed extremely balanced since you could access many of the trees if you were intuitive enough and get the recov. I rarely saw Archer gameplay either and when I did it was lackluster at best.

    The rating system has caused the best CTF map ever in the history of the world to be removed yet keeps terrible maps like Blackout in play due to ratings. Not only is blackout still in rotation but it's one of the most popular maps (hence why it's played %90 of the time and the other %10 is Whiteout.) Even though it looks disgusting and plays bellow average.

    If blackout was made in the modern era of CTF, it would've never been accepted.

    @Snowleak14 Blackout is bad and it should feel bad for being such a bad map.
     
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  6. Snowleak14

    Snowleak14 Well-Known Member

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    @Tenshirox be nice to blackout, you have no right to be so unkind towards it.
    If you ever talk so low about blackout again I am afraid we will have to report you for toxic behaviour!
     
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    #26 Snowleak14, Aug 5, 2015
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  7. Lugia_

    Lugia_ support =D

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    I like Pagodas how it is, but @mh__ had a pretty damn good rework. Whether it be the original by @Pavocado or the rework by @mh__, having Pagodas back would be a blessing. Bring it back!
     
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  8. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps we combine Pavo's and Mh's rework kind of like all the versions of blackout got combined?
     
  9. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Or we could just add Pagodas back how it was. I think the petition speaks for itself.
     
  10. Flavorous

    Flavorous the help

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    Or just let Pavocado do his magic :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  11. dolphincreampuff

    dolphincreampuff Active Member

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    Pagodas or riot
     
  12. redslime

    redslime Lead Developer

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    why is this map even removed
     
  13. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Cause dumb plebs spammed /n
     
  14. TOM_SAYS

    TOM_SAYS Active Member

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    What I absolutely don't get is that a great map like Pagodas (eventhough it had low rankings which nobody cares about anyway) gets removed, and while terrible maps like greathall, forrest rivals, black/whiteout and castle wars are in the rotation...
     
  15. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    I did not like Pagodas because it was so soldier overpowered. There was limited access to elevated objects, and to cross the map soldiers never had to touch the ground.
     
  16. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Now I see pictures... #ADDBACKPAGODASNUWPLEASEHYPE
     
  17. ProfeshunalSpelr

    ProfeshunalSpelr Active Member

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    Pagodas was an okay map. It didn't have a lot of secret tunnels, which I'm really fond of. The open flag room was a bit of a nuisance and players could place turrets near the flag building. It's a big map with a lot of flat areas. Pagodas has water, which is always a +1. And because it was so big you can sneak around the map without getting spotted.
     
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