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Discussion in 'Guides' started by corey435, Sep 28, 2015.

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  1. corey435

    corey435 Member

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    No ordinary average day team will always win the game. today I will show you what we all should be doing to work as a team.

    1. Medic: Heal full healthed targets this means a restock. if you hear someone calling at spawn for medic he's wanting a restock. spawn does not restock steak and keep in mind necros lose kill score from minions if they go in spawn.

    TIP: restock these more then others

    chemists,
    Ninjas cloak and flash bombs,
    Assassin power ups,
    And engy and Necros steak


    Body block pyro arrows (you can't be set on fire) they are no match for you don't let them kill your friends however.

    2. Protect Engys/ Necros

    Necros is a more offensive engy and needs more help then a engy Do not kill people threatning him
    (if he has spawner) assist the zombies and you'll be rewarded with a better Necro if you see one also try to help him reach the front lines (see medic above)

    Protect a engy and you should get a tele

    You get tele you get flag. heck a dwarf could rush to the flag with a tele ( to assist teammates)

    Ninja: target archers

    TIP: any archer can stop a necro on your team trying to be offensive, a engys tele, or a flag carryer

    Assassin: same as ninja (except less)

    Engy and Necro: once they work together there is little to stop them. a necros minions can slow down the enemy combined with a turret is a strong combo (they both also really need steak and cake is a better)

    TIP: let the zombies get the kills. And eat cake not steak (unless cake is too far)

    Chemist: For gods sake don't go for the flag all the time try buffing/healing people sometimes (should I really say more?)


    Signals:

    Shifting:
    when someone spam shifts he wants a medic, is appreciating your help, or simply needs/wants to be defended

    Blocking: use to defend against assassins also if he spam holds it its a warning that ones near.

    He also may be thanking you.

    Edit: Signal Shift could be someone trying to be stealthy or a ninja healing (doesn't mean not to restock him)
    (It is so obvious I didn't state it someone did point it out)

    Edit:
    Yes blocking does mean someone's trying to team with you this means a more helpful teammate like a medic focus on healing you the reason why I left this out is because not only is it obvious but it can get you killed if your teammate leaves you.
     
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  2. Intincrui

    Intincrui Well-Known Member

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    Great guide, I can tell you spent time on this.
     
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  3. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    "Shifting:
    when someone spam shifts he wants a medic, is appreciating your help, or simply needs/wants to be defended"
    Could also be trying to sneak into a base.

    "Blocking: use to defend against assassins also if he spam holds it its a warning that ones near."
    This is also to show teaming between people.

    And yes. Finally someone says to guard Necros like me. Normally everyone just forgets about us. :c
     
  4. Deppuccino

    Deppuccino Well-Known Member

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    you know, for a guy that has so much common sense, it's crazy that I would have to tell you:
    The door is to your left.
    You see, Ninjas and Assassins have much better things to do with their time then target archers, cuz 1: The Archer will start revenge killing you and calling you a targetter, which in that case is true, 2: Why the hell would a Archer wanna target Necros when he could be using his time on Medics, Chemists, Heavies, Defense and other Archers, and 3: If you were trying that on me I would just shrek you with my special anti-ninja strat: circle, strafe and left click like there's no tomorrow. And same thing for Assassins.
     
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  5. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Nice guide! Hopefully this promotes teamwork, a process in which both people (or a group) is benefitted :smile:.
     
  6. GreenNature

    GreenNature Nature is Creative

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    I just AFK near spawn
     
  7. BrandinoB

    BrandinoB Well-Known Member

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    Ty fr gr8 gide frnd rly hlpfl wl uz ths all th tiem so I cn hlp mi tm mor
     
  8. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    Correction: You do not lose your killstreak when you enter spawn. Only when you die, switch classes, or quit.

    I just wanted to correct you on that. Great guide anyway!
     
  9. corey435

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    Thank god I thought the Necro was worse then it still is it still needs buff thowe

    And loseing ur entire kill streak as Necro is bad enough as you can't get skeles

    Heck Necro is so weak you team is more likely to win before you get to blaze or even skeletons themselves

    Edit: An even better teamwork is simply being in the forums as I barley see any replys. Or people who make a thread account.


    Edit: Archers do not target Necros but they will definitely stop you from place ing a spawner where it can get kills.
     
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  10. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    Necro's not entirely useless. Pair it up with engineer and the minions can help the engineer fend off attackers.

    Also, I don't know when, but spiders replaced blazes a while back. They're not much more helpful though.
     
  11. corey435

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    Oh well it still doesn't fit the role well as it is insanely hard to get to even skele before the game ends or you get killed and lose EVERYTHING also who says a engy will team up with you

    And even worse who says you won't be targeted by something like a pyro who could easily kill (the engy usually) and leave the Necro defenseless and unable to tele back when the spot is probably compromised and guarded. (I've seen too many targeted after they see your strat)
     
  12. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    Well, most of the time a pyro will have a hard time killing an engineer. One that stays close to his or her regenerator. This is from personal experience, btw. But yeah, an engineer should still be careful when confronted by a pyro.
     
  13. corey435

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    Agreed it's just I have found hard to find a good place a necro can get enough kills and stay safe (ever since nerf) I have found a place in a new map but it is quite broken and most likely will be fixed (don't ask I forget the map name some base with a bunker or something?)

    Also who is to say someone won't break it (and you come back in danger to replace it) after being annoyed by it. If you run away to a safe place.

    Note: I wish I had more control over minions as in terms of when they Agro (they will relentlessy chace if attacked)
    But (will barley notice a enemy if he runs past nor will he catch up)

    Necro is like a more offensive engy and this is how it does not fit it's role infact it could be a counter to engy if the turret shot at zombies. (Allowing you to move in and break)
     
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  14. InfiniSTistus

    InfiniSTistus I´m Rock´s mommy

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    How long did this take? really well done :smile:
     
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    When I play chemist I try to buff the flag room when I'm not occupied and I always do when defending.
    Another point to the thread: chemists really appreciate restocks as well, especially when defending, because they can hotkey and use more dmg pots for a higher dmg output.
     
  16. Icarus_82

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    It seems as if Capture the Flag has become Protect the Campers
     
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  17. pookeythekid

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    Only for necros and engies imo. More like CTF has always been to a very large amount of people: "Get kills first, remotely consider capturing and/or helping your team later."

    @corey435 Nice thread. Most regulars should already know all this, but even a reminder is good.
     
  18. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    This is a good idea for a thread. Just gonna throw in my 2 cents
    1. Since this is basically a guide, you'd get more attention putting it into the guides section
    2. this would be good for new players, but I daresay most of the people here will know everything in this guide already. Maybe add something that's more high level, or something not everyone knows about. That way it can be useful for everyone. Reminders are good, but reminders with new information is even better
     
  19. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    To me it seems that this thread was meant almost entirely for new players or "regulars" who just don't know how to play team CTF. And non-regulars don't seem to give a crap about the Guides.
     
  20. Plautius

    Plautius Well-Known Member

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    Every newbie who reads this guide gets a false impression of necro, though. I'd modify that.. Don't heal necros. Let them die. Consequently. Do your good deed today, don't heal your necros.
     
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