Idea Archer Rework (nerf)

I see where you're going, when going archer it's essential to be accurate instead of just spamming a bunch of arrows. Although I don't think this is really the best solution. Considering that you have to wait 5 whole seconds to regenerate an arrow, and let's say there's a wave of enemies coming, you use 1 arrow you instakill one person but the rest are still there. You can't just use up all your arrows to take them out, because then it will turn into "Hit them 2-5 times", which is really considered impossible. Think of it as Elf's Pure Element, hitting them twice will deal 6 hearts of true damage, this is a really tricky maneuver to do, and needs tweaking as stated in this thread.

Also if you want to instakill and you've used up all your arrows, you have to wait 50 seconds to instakill, that's nearly a minute. Think of all the time wasted just waiting for your instakill to recharge. Assassin only takes 20 seconds to recharge its instakill, that's more than half of Assassin.

I could go on listing the problems, but this isn't the correct fix. Although here is an idea I've proposed for a very long time now, the longer you shoot someone the higher the damage, it stacks. Meaning that you can only get an instakill if the target is really far away, it may relate to your idea, but it needs a bit of tweaking TBH.

 

great idea

this should be implemented asap

 

#1 Then what is your point of Archer? Just want to know, considering there's a bunch of uses in my standpoint, such as trying to get the flag back and killing everyone that guards the flag. Defending and killing everyone that comes. Because Assassin is mostly viewed as take one person out then go in hiding until your assassination skill regenerates, except for the rare part you kill someone without assassination and get it back.

Archer right now, most people usually bow spam and keep shooting. Most good archers do that as well, there's really nothing wrong with it, and it's very effective for getting a bunch of headshots. Archer really is an anti-team class because you can easily pick out all the players from a long distance where you can't get hurt, as opposed to Assassin who can only take out one guy and can be dangerous in close-combat.

This is where you can see how OP archer is, the fact that it's Long Range Anti-Team is actually really good, but it needs to be nerfed, but this nerf kind of demolishes the part of "Anti-team", making it more 'Game Mechanics' than just skill.

#2 I don't really think it should be 'Punished' for missing, rather it should be 'try to get it at the next shot'. The whole point of bow spamming is basically that if you miss it you can try again, I talked about Assassin. Assassin is already the concept of you miss then you have to wait 20 seconds, or you fail then you die. I can see where you're going when you go Archer. But Archer isn't really the type to... fail... considering it's Longe Range. But I guess it's arguable that since it's Long Range AND Anti-Team it needs to have punishment if it fails. So yea.

#3 Then that's good, making it less harsher than the Assassin punishment.

 

This doesn't really punish for missing, it punishes for shooting at all. Why? Because there's no reward for being accurate. Unlimted headshots are unfair, but this rework takes things just a little to far. Archer is indeed over powered in the right hands, making it unbalanced, but killing the class doesn't make it balanced either.

 

Well i Will start archer deffing then

 

You do realise I said why I felt this why right after I said it, right? Whatever, I'll say it again. You said you wanted to punish archers for being inaccurate, which implies that there is some form of reward for being accurate. But there isn't. If you have the 10th arrow, and you headshot someone, you still get punished anyway, by losing that ability even though the shot wasn't missed. You see what I'm saying here? This not only punishes inaccurate archers, but accurate archers as well. There would be no rewarding gameplay for using the class, and no real reason to use it at all.

 

You get punished for your accuracy if you miss and do not get the kill which is kind of the goal of shooting someone, so if you do miss you have to wait to try again in which the person has time to hide, getaway, go into a building or whatever and if you get the headshot then you succeeded in killing someone therefore being rewarded for your accuracy.

And if you really think only being able to headshot/insta-kill someone every 6 seconds is a tragic nerf to archer and will make it so there's no reason to use it it really shows for how broken and overpowered the clsss is and how(not to be rude) silly your argument is.