Reality check (brace yourself)

I agree with your thread... To a degree. You see, having numbers next to your name really is a sign of prestige and honor. Having that number next to your name means that you are a higher member of the community. I see you have taken soo much time into this thread, but I just have to contradict what your saying. Most players don't take the under 30's seriously, well, because they're under level 30. They are not a valued* member of the community. They have not been on the server for a long enough time to be considered an "important" member of the War community. They haven't reached that point yet. The 30+'s and 60+'s are more listened too because of that tag right next to their name. They have been on War for long enough to enter the community. The under 30's haven't really "entered" the community. They are there, but not welcomed and appreciated when they join a server.

My other reason is that not all 60+'s are insecure about their position on the line of skill and they don't have to harass other lower leveled players or 100+'s to be heard. There are many 60+'s that are very welcomed. They don't need to be mean to get others' attention. Also, Brawl isn't full of complaints or stuff like that. I admit, there are complaints, but the majority of threads are either to get the community talking (not trying to complain and be a baby about it) or to start a conversation. The only reason I say this is because your thread paints Brawl in a very negative light where everyone is bad and insecure except the 100+s's.

Also, it's just human nature to stick with the big and powerful people. Back when we were monkey-like creatures,if you didn't stick with the powerful community or people, you would get killed off pretty fast. That's just how it is. You stick with the big guys and hope they'll protect you. In War, the big guys are the people that have numbers next to their names. They are the people that are powerful and have a say with a lot of things. The powerful people are the people that others hang around.


Valued - I put asterisks because valued isn't the right word. It is more like welcomed and important but not really. I can't think of the perfect word.

 

sorry but i cant take you seriously after that intro you made LMAO

 

Most flame threads are posted in the "Negative" section, but if someone posts it in the wrong section, then a SMod moves it. I was making a friendly suggestion before (as a whitename) and it got moved to the Negative section, so I can tell you threads with a pinch of darkness will be moved there. Now let's see... this month (January), 4 negative threads posted. 1 of them is a funny troll about the website, 1 of them is not relating MC-War, 1 of them is talking about the host which got fixed, and the other one was basically making up complaints which got shot down the moment it was posted (a lot of people including me found faults in that thread). So basically not a single one is a valid argument, even in December most of the Negative threads were shot down because of lack of evidence, incorrect sourcing, etc.

"Some of us are even trying to keep those from McPvP out of the old McBrawl servers." Probably because they don't want other people ruining their experience. It's literally a human's response to new people (for some people), the new kid getting bullied at school is basically the same scenario. But even as I say that, how about looking at @Sir_Inge , a kewl guy from the McPvP community. He is (as of now) FREAKIN' level 52. I tell you, I've been playing about let's say... 50x longer than he has, how has he gotten to that level? He is just one example, lots of other people in the McPvP community come too, but I guess most like to stick to Build/CTF/HG . "Because we can" Doesn't mean it's acceptable like you said, not everyone discriminates against new people, but some do. Although that amount of people seem very miniscule to me considering Sir_Inge got to level 52, I doubt people are "McPvP Racist".

I haven't read all of what you said, but I can tell this... Brawl may be able to control the game... but they have less control over the community, especially their thoughts and feelings. If someone won't shine from their own community, then there really can't be a change. No one can just sit aside and say "Oh, my community stinks", that is so because no one is stopping it, or at least no one who has put forth enough effort. (After completing the whole thing, I pretty much agree with you now, that it can be improved)

Again, that is just human behavior, how does that have to do anything with anyone's fault? It would be the player's fault for the lack of self-confidence. This is the internet, what do they seriously expect? (Again after reading the whole thing, I can agree that it can be improved)

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Well besides that, it's true that people need to step up their game, but many are not willing too. It's the internet, and I doubt many people will change their habits over pixels. But it will help if there would be a way to fight player-disrespect etc. .

 

Last message before I go to bed.
I totally agree with you that our War community has gone down really fast, But its building itself up like a flower drowning in the rain when the sun begins to shine on his leafs again. There will be eventually dry times for this flower, but it keeps growing as the rain never stops. Its nature. Only when something extreme happens this flower will fall down to the ground, losing his life that he has lived. Though this is rare if every other flower around him helps him up by giving him a little of their water. Together these flowers will live in harmony.
In time, these flowers will eventually grow into a community with rules. Every flower has to keep himself on the rules and when they dont, they wont be able to receive any help from the others.
The new baby flowers that need lots of water and sunlight get helped by the big old dudes, the great grandpa's, the fully grown flowers. They will suffer some of their sunlight and water for those who have to grow to eventually grow into a grandpa flower.

This is my picture of a perfect community. And this is not what War is. If I would put the War community in the flower perspective, it would look like this:
The community has risen. The big old flowers take all of the sunlight and water, because they are the strongest and the biggest. They look down to the jealous baby flowers who will eventually die to the lack of water and sunlight because the grandpa's are blocking it. Some of these tiny flowers will find an abondent place to grow, where they can grow into a puberty flower. They now claimed their own spot for sunlight and water at the lake, but the babies still suffer. There will always be a few grandpa's and maybe even pubers who will give them the water and sunlight to let the little flowers grow. Though this will only help 10/100 flowers to eventually grow into a puber. The big grandpa's wont care and keep slurping on the water and sunlight.

Is this how the War community has become? A big group of grandpa flowers who kill the babies immediately? I don't think so. There will always be these one grandfathers who actually care about the community. And thats who we are looking for.

Why wait for others to change the community, if you can first change it yourself.

 

Dude... McPvP racism is dead. Nonexistent. And believe me, if you're dedicated to Mc-War, leveling is EZPZ. As Waffle said, Im level 52 and I haven't played in like 2 months. If I had, I'd be at least 60+ by now.

 

Wow, an actual well written, thought out, meaningful thread about the community's problems. Well done.

 

I'm level 100+ and I'm still a nub.


Like always, I say to anyone who says hi to me, especially if they have killed me a few times.

Behind the scenes I always PM level 30 players who happen to kill me a couple of times.

I don't things are as bad as you make them sound....except for the part about losing your skills and the competition getting better..

PS- I'll take it easy on you next time bro! I've studied all your guides and perfected your techniques....the apprentice has become the Master.

 

Wait a minute, you're talking about this only ten days after posting this? Really?

 

So is it worth reading?

 

In one paragraph, it is about Lightwielder ranting (not supposed to sound mean) about his disappointment for the War community. He explains about how it is flawed and needs to be fixed because it is unacceptable. He explains about 100+s's being generally nice, but when they have an opinion, they crush everyone else. He then talks about 60+s's being insecure and needing to push others around to be heard and accepted. They "need" to harass 100+s's and under 30+s's to feel good about their place in the Mc-War community totem pole. He then explains on how under 30+s's aren't heard and that they are a very valuable part of the community. He talks about them being under leveled and not heard because of that. His last paragraph is about how this behavior of the Mc-War community is unacceptable, fundamentally flawed, and needs to be reworked and fixed.

This was not meant to sound mean, if you think it sends out that vibe

 

too long i didnt read it

jk

On a serious note, thanks to @Lekosa1 for doing this lvl 30- thing to me. I believe I really did have some great opinions, but had no idea how to deliver these, giving me more and more haters as I continued to attempt to spread my opinion. However, leko really understood me properly, and really encouraged me to keep playing war. Although you may not feel you've done much to me, you're the reason I'm quitting. jk jk jk, you're the reason I came back actually. So thanks so much to Lekosa1 for bringing me all the way here

 

when someone trips you up and knocks you down in a virtual world
remind yourself
You're playing a block game.
It doesn't matter.
They can just go fk themselves.

When you get to that level, your status and prestige makes you so that you feel like a Western imperialist nation bullying other less technologically, economically advanced nation.

Really, the only reason people play war is that they are finding self-esteem through a block game.
imo, they are killing and subjugating people to prove that they are worth something to the world, and they feel like their life has meaning in return. Basically, they're metaphorically killing the external forces in their life that they can't do anything about, but in reality, nothing changes.

 

This is a good example of war. I agree with your post, the 100+ players are treated alot differently to the 30+ guys. If you listen to the low leveled players, they actually have very interesting points to be made. About the community, it has to change. I miss the old days, when everyone would actually get along with one and another. The amount of people swearing, flamming, spamming and those players who play to annoy staff members is unreal. Back in the day, it would be non-existant, and everyone listened to each other.

 

The cold hard truth tends to wake up even the most oblivious people and to be honest I like it. I do my best to teach the younglings but the bullies you mentioned make it signifigantly harder. In general Im a very quiet person and I try to teach younger players how to play in private messages. I RARELY try being very rude in chat and on the forums and you probably know this since you played with me yesterday. It makes me sad to see how rude some people are.

 

Just not true. How do you know if someone comes from mcpvp? Or if he is just new? And still if he is from mcpvp it doesnt matter.
we 60+and 100+ are all friends. Twe dont know the new people so we dont really talk mich with them. If they have a question well anwer it. They can also have fun in the chat but they just dony know much about mcwar so they cant talk about everything with us. That is the reason why 30- dont chat a lot. If they chat they get repect but they dont so...

Just not true. How do you know if someone comes from mcpvp? Or if he is just new? And still if he is from mcpvp it doesnt matter.
we 60+and 100+ are all friends. Twe dont know the new people so we dont really talk mich with them. If they have a question well anwer it. They can also have fun in the chat but they just dony know much about mcwar so they cant talk about everything with us. That is the reason why 30- dont chat a lot. If they chat they get repect but they dont so...