Idea Kind of small mage nerf.

Mage's armour is actually pretty weak.

 

Mage actually has the weakest armor in the game now, due to the elf JUST GETTING PROT 2 CHEST AN BOOTS NOT LEGGINGS, but its got horrible armor, and any decent heavy, ninja or Instant kill class can counter it. Its lightning doesn't recharge quickly. if you can catch the mage between recharges and he misses 1-2 damage spells he's dead in the water, and since its regen you still have time to kill him if your damage output is high enough, btw MAGE CANT BLOCK.

 

The mage takes about 4 damage spells to kill, so before they regen their potion, that's quite a few chances, not to mention all the other spells you can use. It's a part of the whole magic thing, it uses spells to heal, damage, freeze, burn, but making it steak would be kind of dumb, because every class that has weak armor like mage or ninja have some sort of healing mechanic (sorry assassins) where they need something other than steak to use. Like, wouldn't it be op if you were soldier and got into a fight on flat ground with a ninja that had steak? Kind of the same with mage. The mage cant have instant heal, but the regen is pretty quick. If you are a powerful class though, you can kill faster than they can regen.

 

O wait yeah. And ninja but they don't count

 

l0l, mages armor being weak doesn't really mean crap when you can never get to them.

 

The way I see it, mage should keep the regen potion, seeing that 3 other classes have infinite health (medic / ninja / assassin). Are you saying we should give ninja steak too? Ninja can pearl away, heal, and pearl right back, so why not just give it steak so it dies quicker? Not to mention, you're not seeing the actual problem with mage.

Mage is (in my opinion) the only mid-range class in the game, and it relies on keeping it's distance. If you want to nerf mage, take the knockback off of its damage spell.

As seen here, the main problem with mage is that it relies on keeping a distance from its opponents, unlike most other melee classes that require you to run into the player for close sword on sword pvp. This traps the attacker in a vicious circle of infinitely playing into the mage's killing field, seeing as the attacker must constantly run towards the mage to kill him when the mage can attack at a distance. However, I find it useful to pvp them up to a wall or structure, so then they can't move backwards and dodge your sword.

1. Mage can be killed by every class, it's just that some kill it easier than others, or some have better advantages.
2. Get better? We shouldn't have to change something like this just because people aren't going to put in the time to learn how to avoid and defeat mages.
3. Mage is not made for running, it's made for midrange pvp. The only thing is that you usually have to stay mobile while using mage to keep your enemies in that midrange. Ninja, assassin, and medic all have some sort of an infinite health pool, so I don't see the problem with mage having one too. Not to mention, the potion is also a downfall to mage. When you right click steak, you instantly get back your 4 hearts, and nothing will stop that. However, mage's health potion is AOE. You can miss a health potion, or you can heal your enemies with it. Trust me, if you're being knocked around enough, you will miss your health potion sometimes, and there have been plenty of times that I have healed my enemies or have been healed by mages. It is also regeneration, not instant health, meaning that you can still kill the mage if it is low health and uses its heal spell, and don't forget the time in which the potion must splash, giving you more time to kill the mage.

However, I do agree that mage should have its damage spell knockback removed. I think everyone would agree that the damage spell is the mage's most direct and quick avenue of attack, and taking off the knockback would allow the enemy to be able to close in faster on the mage.

The problem with mage is not so simple as reverting the healing potion to steak. Although it would slightly limit a mage's options, it would not stop the bigger problem that mage is able to keep its close range enemies at midrange while still doing a ton of damage.

 

On the question of knockback for mage, I think they would end up the same as the engi turret, you can't give it 0 knockback, the client probably wouldn't allow it and ban you for anti-kb, so they give it so little knockback it is barely registering. So no kb not an option, very very little kb yes.

 

Do this and you'll make Mage as worthless as dwarf fighting an archer. Mage has a few seconds of vulnerability while recharging, as they probably use all their spells in a certain time.

 

The regen, however I have some opinion on the damage spell. Damage spell, I agree, there shouldn't be knockback. In all honesty, it would KIND of fix damage spam. Mage has enough knockback already.

 

@kevshadowslayer Mage would be harder to deal with having no knockback rather than what it has now. No knockback from projectiles cancels sprint and brings you to the ground if you are jumping, this would allow you to chain damage spells easier than with the knockback.

 

If you're heavy try going to an enclosed area. As far as soldier goes you can try to time your wall climb to avoid spells, but it may be somewhat difficult.

 

This doesn't help much because the only time mages tend to be a problem is when they're spawn camping, which are rarely enclosed enough for heavy to have any real effect. Mage NEEDS a default counter.