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My levels are gone..@Vincz

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by MR_EVIL_OVERLORD, Jul 26, 2017.

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  1. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    ISSUE: Players stats were changed without him knowing.

    DISCUSSION: I think it is prudent that changes to players should be communicated to them before being enacted. Bringing this up because @Vincz wasn't aware that a change was made, who made it, or even why.
    He found out, only after he posted a thread about it.

    For the Mods involved, the request is to communicate. That is all.

    Communicate with the person/player and then initiate the change. Not the other way around. This could have been discussed and a solution could have been agreed upon vs a random level selected.

    To be clear, the point is not that he was placed at a lower level than he thought he should have been at.

    The point of this thread is that staff should communicate and discuss with the player involved before making a change.

    Let's up our game a bit and be more professional admin team.

    Evil
     
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  2. SoCool21

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    How was he not aware a change was made? Dropping over 100 levels is a pretty apparent change.

    Why does this information matter? Just as we don't reveal which staff member makes bans, we don't reveal which staff member wipes stats, due to privacy issues.

    When you abuse a massive glitch to illegitimately gain over 100 levels and you later get levels removed, it should be blatantly obvious it is because you abused the glitch...

    We also tried to figure out what level he should have had based off of his stats. If that is lower than what level he should have had, then that sucks for him. He shouldn't have abused the glitch, and should be happy he didn't get his level wiped (because if I was in charge, that's exactly what would have happened).
     
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  3. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I read his thread and it appeared like he didn't know what was going on.

    His account could have been hacked or glitched.


    The point I was making was all someone had to do was let him know. Pretty simple.

    Look this server has issues: poor mgmt, can't finish projects, losing players...could go on and on.

    Let's start improving things by communicating...then we can figure out the bigger problems.

    Vince is a major voter, has played a long time, and at the end of the day he is a customer. (a very good voting customer as well).

    We should at least talk to him so he knows what is going on.

    Things must be crazy if I am the voice of reason...
     
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  4. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    it doesnt matter if the account was hacked or glitched, the levels were still gained illegimately and he wasnt actually punished for it
     
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  5. Toki_12

    Toki_12 Well-Known Member

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    What's the problem here? What do you mean we should've let him know. Dropping 100 levels like @BrawlIsMyCity said is pretty big, and he did know what was going on. He glitched intentionally and knew that it wasn't fair. He deserved this in my opinion.
     
  6. Vincz

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    The point MR_EVIL_OVERLORD is making, is that there was zero communication between the serverteam and me about this.
     
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  7. Toki_12

    Toki_12 Well-Known Member

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    Ok if they was planning on removing your levels, why would they talk to you? I'm guessing you would have tried to stop them.
     
  8. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    You have completely missed the point.
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    The point is that they should have just communicated that they were going to make the change.

    The point is not if they should or not remove levels, or even what level they would return him too.

    I don't know why I bother this server is so unprofessional in every aspect of management and it shows. It's like watching the keystone cops.

    If I owned the server I would probably fire half the staff and mods.
     
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  9. sjuka_legogubbar

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    Maybe we should have PMed him, just like chickenputty originally did. But if we PM one individual then we should do something similar to everyone getting their stats changed, and if this glitch was widely known and hundreds of players did it we would not waste the time to tell them all why they got their stats wiped/changed.

    I feel just like @BrawlIsMyCity said that what we would have told him is obvious. The mistake was the fact that nothing happened when he first did it, where it would have been no question about what happened when maybe a couple of days after he glitched his stats was set back to what it was / wiped.

    Taking this into concideration I actually think we should have told him something, not before doing it but more as an alert saying why it took so long time before we did it.
     
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  10. NateTheDerp

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    I'm pretty sure you guys were going a bit easy on him. He could have gotten a warning about this, but he was fully aware that he glitched the entire time. I'm surprised the staff team didn't ban him.
     
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  11. Vincz

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    As I said already many times. It was one glitch, once for an instant 70 levels boost.
     
  12. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    doesnt matter, you glitched your levels and they were reverted to a reasonable guess
     
  13. tallscot

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    All they had to do was PM him, letting him know his stats were going to be reset and tell him why, no arguments. Otherwise he could've thought it was another glitch, he was in the dark about this. All you people saying "he glitched, he should've known why his stats were reset" bro he glitched months ago, and he thought that putty already reached a verdict about it, so he thought that his glitching wasn't the reason.

    His entire thread could've been avoided if one of you "staff members" were professional like Evil said, and just let him know what was going to happen. If communication between the staff team and the community is so difficult, I'm surprised this server is still a thing if I'm being honest.

    He did this months ago, and he was told by chickenputty (or so he thought) that he should be fine. Months later, this happens, and he has no idea why.
     
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    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    they were glitched levels and they were reverted, there isnt a need for communication
     
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  15. Vincz

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    Not true.
    They weren't just reverted, they gave me an extra penalty losing thirty more levels. There is certainly a need for communication in such case.

    The only communication there ever was, was right after it happened.
    chickenputty sent me:
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    (As I already said, my use of the word 'legit' was faulty)

    chickenputty's response
    So then I threw some thickened arguments about how XP and levels are quite important to everyone playing and he said:
     
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    okay, then you can ask them to revert it in a private pm
     
  17. tallscot

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    It's like getting banned in game for doing something you did months ago, without a reason for the ban that you can see. The server does need communication, in EVERY situation. Especially since this happened months ago.
     
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  18. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    If I remember right, this happened like Oct or Nov of last year. 8-9 months ago?
     
  19. tallscot

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    Don't know, just going off of what Vincz said.
     
  20. featherpaw

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    There's no mistaking there was a lack of communication on the staff's end here and I'm sorry for that. I'll say it since I'm not sure all other staff will, so I hope you can accept mine a little. However, you will not get a public apology from them. It will not happen because, in the end, they're the ones who decide what to do and when. That is they're choice, for better or for worse, and although it is not the correct way to run a business, we are not in any position to run it ourselves.

    However, this matter also should've been handled privately with roke and putty only. By creating a public forums thread, you have decreased your own professionalism and put the staff in a position where they must choose to ether side with the higher ups or with the community. I'm not saying this thread isn't important to bringing attention to the lack of transparency between the staff team and the community, however, I was expecting more of a civilized, calm discussion about why the chain of events happened, and then an appropriate course of action to rectify the situation, instead of the thread of accusations I'm currently seeing.
     
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