should repetitive earth element spam be against mmr

just remove the elf class from the game

 

maybe

 

Would love to see this happen, good call

 

No because global warming is an issue in this world and we need more dirt to save the environment for our future children

 

november i support you

 

No because as you should all be aware of by now, Planet Earth is slowly but surely running out of natural resources due to humanity's constant industrialization and manufacturing business. We use all of our globe's resources making cars and fueling them and ****. So, we need more dirt in this world to sediment itself onto the ground, thus increasing the pressure felt down in the depths of the crust and mantle, which will speed up the process for ores and petroleum and **** being formed. Save the Earth, spam Earth Element.

 

I think Kassyk shows an amazing example of this during matches, I'm a fan of his talents and bravery.

A cool down would solve this however.

 

Kill all strategies used by tbf so competitive ctf is now even more narrowed down to what you can and can't do!!!

 

u go november

 

The MMR would need to be very specific in how they defined it otherwise people would spend ages arguing about how they aren't "technically" earth spamming similar to how bowspam with archer is treated (maybe no more than two earth elements in a row without using a different element) but it would be very nice to have this added to MMR.

 

I think we should just nerf earth element, a cooldown could work just like @Codebastian said

 

Could you be more specific? Is there a certain time between shots, or a number of arrows fired before it's considered spam? Like throwing 3+ webs at a time is webspam. As stated above this rule would have to be made very clear, otherwise it would be difficult to enforce.

In addition, would the earth spam be in a certain area?(like earth spamming at a flag post) or just in general? Since teams generally vote against allowing ninja caps in a match, I don't see why earth spam needs to be added to mmr. It just seems annoying, not something completely gamebreaking. It just doesn't seem like a big deal, especially when I'd rather focus on reworks and small changes for classes.

Finally, this seems like a good counter to soldier. Elf really isn't the best class, and this gives it a good use on defense. This adds more power to defenses, if it's used correctly. Not enough people are doing this for it to be a huge issue. -1

 

This tactic is really only used by TBF, and only in certain circumstances. This is not an "every match use earth spam to win" strategy. It's only useful on soldier op maps (ie blackout and lowrise) I wouldn't even call it effective the majority of the time. It all depends on the elfs aim, which is not hard to do. When we practice, we occasionally practice against this strategy, and frankly it's not hard to avoid.

I know you said before about how this wasn't really a suggestion, other wise it would be in a differently section. Team drama or whatever aside, what do you consider earth spam?

 

Medic teaming and insta capping can be practiced against as well, yet almost every team agrees against them for matches

 

Medic teaming, especially with sharpness is over powered. Insta capping isn't even a thing anymore since ninja doesn't have 10 pearls. Ninja capping itself isn't against mmr, and while it has been allowed in specific matches before generally teams leave out ninja capping.

Using the earth element to stop someone from moving and bring down classes that are in the air (soldier) is literally what it was designed to do. What's the point of even allowing the class in the game if it's not allowed to hit multiple shots in a row?(which doesn't happen as often as you'd think)

Medic teaming and ninja capping are very difficult to stop. Stopping an elf from using its earth element? Put a ninja on it, problem solved. Or, idk, step out of the way of the arrow? Elf was given earth element to do damage, and stop classes like soldier. Just remove the class from matches if you don't want it to hit multiple earth elements in a row (which is kind of the goal)

As stated above, this would be solved by adding a cool down. No need to have refs watch the occasional defensive elf, just give it a cool down. Problem solved