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Idea Steak count regen in spawn

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Dequoy, Sep 17, 2017.

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  1. Dequoy

    Dequoy Active Member

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    This is a simple enough, near self-explanatory suggestion. Allow steak counts, when applicable, to increase back to a class' maximum while they stand in spawn.

    A delay of one minute to go from no steaks to a full stack for the class should work well (since 60 seconds is divisible by 3, 4, 5 and 6 evenly). A player would need to remain in spawn for the entire length of their class' corresponding "Spawn Steak Delay" in order to regain a steak in this way.

    Max 3 steaks = Spawn Steak Delay of 20 seconds.
    Max 4 steaks = Spawn Steak Delay of 15 seconds.
    Max 5 steaks = Spawn Steak Delay of 12 seconds.
    Max 6 steaks = Spawn Steak Delay of 10 seconds.

    This would allow teams with very few or no medics to still offer steak replenishment and retain kill counts for those who perform well and desire these stats to be non-reliant on other players who decide to aid them as medics. The downside is that the player would need to have a way back to spawn (some maps don't even allow spawn reentry) and would need to sit and wait for the steak to gradually refill - taking them out of the action in the meantime. Because of this, medics would remain by far the best method of refilling steaks.
     
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  2. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    I'm not in favor of this idea for one main reason: it diminishes team play. If I never need help, or a support class why are they even in the game? It is nice to get high kill-streaks, however that's not the point of the game. It's a team game. I feel that this idea promotes more killwhoring and less objective gameplay. -1
     
  3. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    ./md or if you have no medic answering stand in spawn and get full health then respawn.
    Doesn't matter if you are on a kill streak for respawning the game isn't about getting big killstreaks. Just my opinion -1
     
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  4. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    By the time you'd get your steak you could respawn on full health and get it back. Being quicker that would be the preferred option gameplay wise.
     
  5. Dequoy

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    Based on what I've read from most so far, in multiple threads on the topic, it seems as though the collective preference is for there to be absolutely no way to gain back steak without dying/respawning as the same class/changing classes except for the absolute reliance on teamed medics. Perhaps it's forever doomed to be voted down and stomped upon, but I figured I'd give it a shot in case my twist on how to regain steak without having to completely start over might spark some positive feedback or brainstorm some other ideas for those who may support the general concept.

    I agree that CTF is a team effort game, but sometimes there are simply no medics. Begging for someone to switch to medic just to refill your steak is often ignored or a bit of a drawback from the team effort since those who would be willing to help the team are probably already occupied by defending the flag or scouting areas where sneak attackers might enter the base.

    Perhaps a better solution to this may exist away from spawn somehow to allow the individuals to at least have some drastic option to help themselves rather than being utterly dependent so that it would be an incentive to hold their ground rather than having to return to spawn as I originally suggested in this post. Lately I've "fixed" the issue by choosing to be the medic myself, lol.
     
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    I get your points but I feel this would slightly slow the gameplay down. More people will be encouraged to run back into spawn and wait when they lose all their steaks to maintain a killstreak instead of dying or quickly respawning/being healed by a medic. Also, how would the effect chemist? Would it regenerate health/regen potions?

    Also think of this realistically, who would want to wait 60 seconds to regain their steaks when they'll most likely be headshotted 10 seconds after they leave spawn.
     
  7. Dequoy

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    Ha ha, I certainly see your point too. I'm personally not a stat-follower, but I do get annoyed when I'm out and about as an archer or a heavy, then I get jumped by a ninja from nowhere and fend them off and then I run off in a random direction so that they hopefully have trouble returning to the scene and finding me to finish me off. By then I've used at least one steak, but as archer probably 3 or all 4, and remember especially against ninja onslaughts it doesn't matter how much skill the defender has. THEY start the fight when they're skilled and gunning for you, lol, and you're going to get chopped down eventually - unless you run back to spawn with your tail between your legs or beg for a medic to drop what they're involved in doing to hopefully help you out...unless they don't like you because you were an archer in the last game too and you might've sniped them more times than they cared to endure...

    Again, this little scenario doesn't exactly reinforce my original "steak from spawn" idea because to survive the ninja respawn onslaught running back to spawn would be necessary either way. I guess the major "problem" I was perceiving was pestering medics for help, especially when playing on a team of players who seem reluctant to play the role of medic. So as I said earlier, ha ha, that's typically when I switch to medic to help fill the void.
     
  8. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Or just respawn? Ninja is the best and one of the few counters to an archer. I don't see why you are complaining about that yet archer counters nearly every class in the game.

    The only reason you would care about running in to spawn and being killed is if you were on a killstreak. You said that you didn't care about stats however you clearly care about your killstreaks which is, surprisingly, a stat.
     
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