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Idea (Class Idea) Guardian

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by JPH9Nine, Oct 2, 2017.

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Would Guardian be a good class to add to the CTF Class List

Poll closed Oct 30, 2017.
  1. Yes

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  2. Maybe

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. No

    9 vote(s)
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  1. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Hello, I am here to put in an idea for a NEW CTF Class, called the Guardian...

    The Guardian's main purpose on the field is to defend the flag.


    Armor:
    Iron Helmet (Fire Protection I)
    Diamond Chestplate (Fire Protection I)
    Iron Leggings (Fire Protection I)
    Iron Boots (Fire Protection I)

    Hotbar:
    1- Guardian Axe (Diamond Axe with Sharpness II)
    2- Stick (Knockback II)
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    5-
    6-
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    9- Compass


    Disclaimer:
    This class is meant to be resistant to Pyro's and to defend flag from enemies.

    With the Guardian Axe, there will be a 5 second buffer period after two hits, it is meant for defending the flag against stronger enemies such as Chemist or Heavy.

    The stick (Knockback II) is meant for when pushing enemies away from flag when there is a large group storming the flag room.

    No steak to make it less OP and easier to kill.

    One other thing, the Guardian, if stealing the flag will lose the Fire Protection I making it fair for the opposite sides pyros to have an equal chance to recover.
     
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  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    10 god apples is far too op. Sharpness 5 diamond axe would given it the best damage output in the game and the armour is the 2nd best after heavy. No, far too op.
     
  3. Ninsanity

    Ninsanity Yoshi Legend and Medic Main

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    I agree with sporty man that this class is far too op. Furthermore, this class doesn't add anything to the game itself. All it is is an super buffed heavy. So -1.
     
  4. wintergreen3

    wintergreen3 Delta Force Leader | Staff Manager | CTF Admin

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    Yeah, this is too OP. It doesn't have a real direction and the damage would be insane. Not to mention that gapples don't really fit into CTF. I suppose you could use the kb for knocking people away from the flag, but implementing that into another class would be better. KB + crazy damage would break the game.
     
  5. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Alright thank you all for your input.
    I will work on making it less OP.

    And @wintergreen3 what class do you think that the KB Stick would work best in?
     
  6. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    There's not a -1 section of your poll ._.

    Compared to the other classes this would be so ridiculously over powered.... like what?

    I want to believe that you're serious (correct me if this is a joke) so, I think you should look at the other classes and think of something similar, something that would fit in the current meta. No new classes are really needed, but if you're set on getting one added, think a little more realistically.
     
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  7. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Whoops I will add that right now... :smile:
     
  8. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    Fire protection does not make you immune to being lit on fire/axed by pyros.
     
  9. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Alright thanks for the advice!!
     
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  10. THECOMMANDER5643

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    As a defensive class, this class lacks the ability to protect itself from assassins. Unless you plan to add passive assassination resistance, this class must have at least a wooden sword in addition to the axe to protect it from assassins. Leaving a pure defensive class susceptible to assassinations is one of the worst decisions that can be made for a defensive class.

    Not having any steak, or at least a way to regenerate health is an extremely bad decision for any class type, let alone a defensive class. All classes have some form of health regeneration, and not having any steak to 'balance' out the class simply serves to make it underpowered and will result in it being underplayed.

    The immunity to pyro's fire is a good idea, however pyro is a defensive class that is rarely, if ever, used on offence. This resistance to fire would be better suited on an offensive class, where it would be more likely to run into a pyro. This ability is essentially useless on a defensive class.

    Knockback stick is good for a defensive class, as is the armor.

    As for the weapon, what do you mean by a 'buffer period' after two successful hits? Does it apply a debuff? Does it mean they can't attack for x number of seconds? If so, how long does the ability last? This needs to be thoroughly explained.

    A class idea must be thoroughly thought out before it can be considered a full blown class idea. When you are finished with it, it should look like the description of a class that's already playable in CTF. If it does not, it needs more work. This idea looks like it has a lot of good ideas that were cobbled together in approximately 15 minutes. If this were a class concept, and you were looking for feedback on a general idea before creating the class, this would be perfectly acceptable. However, as this is supposed to be a fully developed class idea, I can't let any of these issues slide.

    Work on bringing all of your ideas together so they fit into a singular class, as well as ensuring that you think of all possible abilities that you want this class to have, and develop them fully. Then, it could easily be a great class idea. Until that happens, -1.
     
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  11. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Thanks For the immense amount of advice I will try to update the class idea ASAP to include all of your thoughts. :smile:
     
  12. Praisekek

    Praisekek Well-Known Member

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    Maybe do this:
    Slowness 1
    Iron Armor and a leather Chestplate
    Knock 2 stick and Diamond Axe(not enchanted)
    3 steak
     
  13. JPH9Nine

    JPH9Nine Legends Die Hard

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    Ok thank you
     
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