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  1. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    as of right now, 7:38 CST, 8:38 EST, there are no staff members on brawl. not one, out of the 29 mods and smods the server has there is not one single staff member online (got this information from @Eil, who then proceeded to log off the server). as well as this, there are about 4 blatantly fly hackers on warz that I reported, couple on war, and another bhopping in the hub. reported, nobody came and they ended up leaving.

    this happens way too often. even when there are mods+ online, almost every time me or somebody else reports a cheater, the report ends up getting ignored because the staff members that are online are either afk or apparently have better things to do. take warz for example. the gamemode is practically ignored by every staff member except for @JayOG (and probably others, none that I have seen however). he's legit the only person that I see banning players. things really need to change lmao

    just because you applied for a certain server, say, CTF, doesn't mean you can ignore reports that are on other servers. I see this happening all the time. I report somebody, 10 minutes pass nobody gets on, I check the other brawl servers and there are moderators on several of them, each of them doing their own thing. however, this time there were none online except for eil who claimed that "he just logged on a minute ago".

    just, if you see a report that you can handle easily, just take care of it. don't wait for somebody else to do it for you just because it isn't your server or because you want to finish your war game or ctf match. you signed up to be a staff member, so do your jobs.

    I feel like I need to call some people out because they still haven't decided to become an active member in this community. @Ritzy put it perfectly:

    "@RMST1 – Resign already xD"
    "@Aboves – you resign as well jesus Christ."
    you both are incredibly inactive and from what I know do next to nothing for the server. you rarely log on, you both applied for WarZ staff and yet none of you play the game, so just resign if you're going to be inactive. same goes for @Blamo @Snail_5_ and @TheTitaniumTitan. if you aren't going to help in game why are you still bothering to keep the staff rank? are you just waiting for somebody else to demote you so you can keep your "staff rep" for as long as possible?

    tl;dr don't ignore reports, inactive staff go away
    ty

    and props to @Maryland for actually deciding to resign instead of waiting for a demotion
    thanks for your time
     
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  2. Maryland

    Maryland Noob mod

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    not sure why any inactive staff would want to stay anyways
     
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  3. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    I had to get off sorry :/ 10 hours+ on a pc gets parents mad xD but I fee you bro. Can get frustrating when I'm busy, know other staff are online, basically none take up the report so I end up doing it I:
     
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  4. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    if you're up for it there's 2 white names flying around that just killed all of us
     
  5. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    On my way!
     
  6. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    most of them want to keep the rank for the tiny possibility that they might come back one day

    however they never do come back and thus are too lazy to make a resignation
     
  7. Snail_5_

    Snail_5_ Switched Accounts "Phobia"

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  8. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    I don't even need to open this man's threads to know that this'll be good

    props

    But on that note - I think Snail put it pretty well and I can understand it if you have invested time and energy into this kind of project (I know 100% what this is like - I stopped modding for SSV almost 8 months ago but am still in the private groups xd).
     
  9. Spirals

    Spirals Savage!!calculatedd!

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    blamo legiterally lets his neighbor play on his account.
     
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  10. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    I try to get on during late hours but recently I've gotten behind in college and am actually working my butt off to not fail.
     
  11. Ritzy

    Ritzy Est. 2014
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    Sorry but if you no longer have the free time to do a job due to other things you need to leave that job. You’ve said yourself you feel as if you changed a lot of things for brawl and been a good staff member. If so why would you want to ruin that by becoming inactive and making people dislike you as you then become a burden...

    Honestly the staff team is messed up on many levels. They don’t accept active good members of the community who want a change and keep @Blamo who I swear to god literally puts in between 0 and 1 hour in A MONTH. (Real statistic)

    If any Mods read this and come under the inactive category, you seriously need to move on as all you are doing is keeping someone else from filling your boots and making brawl successful again. You’re literally killing the server. That’s why I resigned.
     
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  12. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    When people are inactive for no apparent reason, it does nothing but look bad on the rest of the staff team. The bare minimum staff should be getting are 30 minutes a day actually moderating (not just playing), unless they have a reason for it (i.e Cuddled not having a computer, me having a computer but not an operating system :sob:).

    However, the "system" needs to change a bit more rather than expecting certain staff to change (especially as most the staff you called out probably aren't going to even read this). Some changes that should happen:
    1. Demote inactive staff more quickly. It's clear we can't rely on everyone to resign when they go inactive (huge props to @Ritzy, @Maryland and @Xelasi for doing this, though). When monthly statistics are done, any staff who aren't adequately active without good reason should get a major warning, and their activity should be watched closely. If another 2 weeks or so has passed without any improvement in activity, then unless the staff member can explain themselves, they should be demoted for inactivity.
    2. Reduce the requirements for staff applicants, please. Even if we demote literally every inactive staff member right now, it's not going to improve the issue of not having enough (or, any) staff on at peak times. We need to promote more of the people who are applying.
    3. Allow ways for staff members to go inactive for an extended period of time, lose their rank, then come back after their inactivity and get their rank back. At the moment, I'm not adequately active because my computer is broken but I know fully well that when I get a new PC (either the end of this month or the end of next month) I'll be just as active as I ever have been.
    On that last point: it makes no sense to resign in my position. Here's how long it would take for me to become a full moderator if I did resign:
    • I'd have to be active for about a month for my application to be accepted.
    • I'd have to re-apply and wait about a month for my application to be accepted (hopefully xd)
    • I'd have to wait a month to pass trial JMod stage.
    • I'd have to wait up to 2 months to even get a chance to take the hack test and get promoted to staff.
    • I'd then have to wait another 2 weeks to pass the "trial mod" stage.
    Assuming I'm back by the end of the month, that means it'd be half-way through August by the time I'm a full mod again. That's a ridiculously long process to get into a position I was already in. It currently makes no sense to resign when you go inactive but plan on coming back - set up a process where staff can resign "temporarily" and come back when they're able to.

    In fact, the thing that happened to me when I resigned would do well. When I decided I wanted to return to the staff team, GreenPeas said he'd get me handpicked and 2 weeks later, that happened. 1 week after that I was promoted straight from trial JMod to mod again, and 2 weeks after that I was a full mod. If ex-staff (and I mean, staff who recently resigned, not staff who were inactive for over 2 years like GreenPeas was) can be fast tracked back to their positions that quickly, that work great. Mineplex has a system like this, and it's one of the few things about that server which is any good.

    tl;dr I agree with pretty much all of this thread but I don't think expecting every staff member to resign when they go inactive is a realistic solution here. And there also needs a few improvements with how Brawl functions to really make this whole thing work well.
     
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  13. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Here's a quote I sent to Pyrotheum one day: "lowkey builders more active than mods lmaoo".

    I might apply just bc War is a hacker storm lul
     
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  14. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    Every point is agreeable.

    Staff reqs are way too high for the player count on the server. Where tf are they expecting these perfect applicants to come from?
     
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  15. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Hypixel or something probably XD
     
  16. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    I try my best to respond to reports from each server and stay active ingame. That being said, my focus as smod is media and events. There are certain times (streaming hg/reffing a ctf match/hosting an event) where I either have to have staff chat and reports off or cannot leave the server I am on. I know this limits my effectiveness as far as taking care of cheaters goes, but if you shoot me a pm ingame during one of those times I'll often ask another staff member to hop on and have a look.

    On the topic of super inactive staff. If you have staff right now and you resign for a good reason, it won't be that hard to get it back if you become active again. You know that. If you're super active in staff chat but not in game, please start making an effort to at least make an appearance every few days. Regular players can't see the work that goes on behind the scenes, and other staff members shouldn't have to be a liason between you and your own community. It's really not that hard to come ingame for a few minutes a day and respond to reports. Hell, just afk in poof on any server that has b.a.c. and respond to autoban notification sounds.

    Idk, the biggest thing I can say to regulars that are noticing issues like these is this. Get active, post helpful ideas on the forums, get to know the current staff on your gamemode, and apply. If you care enough about the server, you can get staff. There are players (myself included) that used to be exceedingly toxic, do nothing but cause staff members trouble, etc that are staff now. Ask a staff member what you can improve on, work on it, then post an app!
     
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  17. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    Haha, I do this on kit and on peak times, I barely ever get to do anything else xD
     
  18. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    We have a pretty big issue with community management if we require players to apply for staff and get accepted for their voices to be heard.
     
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  19. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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  20. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    I've had my personal reasons to be inactive. Yes, I should have resigned, but I'm trying to come back (Not like it justifies my inactivity). But I can assure you that I have my reasons for both being inactive and staying.
     
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