broken appeal system

lol "learning faster" is separate from experience. Just google it xd

No. Staff members (mods) are supposed to 'serve' (if we're going to use that word) Brawl. They are volunteers who work for a company, like you were, and they keep the servers clean of people abusing Brawl's servers to cheat, flame, etc.

It's nice if mods put together an event or two but its not in the job description.

Difference between a company and a country. Brawl is a company, if you hack on Brawl or (most likely) were hacking you have no "right" to "view the evidence against you". This isn't a criminal investigation and hackers are not in a court of law. There is no "bill of rights" for hackers, or any rights at all

By playing on Brawl you agree to play by their rules. It damages Brawl's reputation to have hackers and likewise it also damages their reputation to have incompetent staff. If someone is banned by staff it is most likely correct - as @SoCool21 knows better than anyone

Even if its a falseban there's no reason for someone to see the evidence of their ban nor are they entitled to view it.

Oh look, it's 2 sentences of pronouns sandwiched between innuendo. I love innuendo

And flamers and child predators must be allowed to debate over the exact phonetics of their chat logs after every mute or ban

I don't see what's wrong with a staff member publicly showing evidence if, for no other reason, to shut someone up. But Brawl is a business, not a community or a country. Whether someone is hacking or not is up to the staff team to decide, not the person under scrutiny. That's why we have mods

 

A staff member doesn't need to show proof, but if requested, they should at least explain why a player was banned.

I am also dealing with the same problem. In my opinion I have been falsely warned and kicked. When I appeal the staff member just says: "Appeal denied". I haven't been given a proper reason why I was kicked. When I message the staff member, which I have been doing for the past week, he ignores me. 2 days ago I wrote: "I'm still waiting" to which he responded: "for?"
I asked him all my questions again and obviously he ignores it. Appealing is pointless because he will just deny it without me knowing why.

Here was I thinking as toxic ex-mod that staff members are supposed to help players.

@Eil

 

Very well, I'll google it.

"Some people learn faster than others, and I assure you, you did not learn more than me about melee combat during your time grinding the mess out of a guns server."

 

Which is why you accuse others of cheating yet deny cheating when they use the exact same evidence against you...that's not learning or being experienced if I'm honest. Last post I'm going to make here because both sides, me included, are being a bit ridiculous.

 

If something is against the law, there is most likely a fantastic reason behind it. *cough* Corruption, perhaps? Oh, right.

No one has used "the exact same evidence" on me. Which is why the mods went through careful consideration when accepting my appeals. No one has even SEEN my evidence, not even me. So please, by all means, show me where I look exactly like Xion, and I'd gladly accept your claim. Last post or not, I'd still like to see my own evidence. Is that not the one thing we agree on?

 

Oh idk maybe the videos that you posted yourself? You honestly just proved again that you don't read half the posts that people make. Last words from me.

 

banned you once cause your head was almighty everywhere and our anticheat was getting a heart attack from all the alerts you were having, but anyways his kb can be explained, maybe some of the other things can't. I barely take any kb myself, as I have gotten hackusated in the past and banned for **** like killaura

 

dirty hackerman

 

I don't care if he's using a knockback modifier or not, he's still cheating. I'm not sure if you're trying to agree with that but I'm not concerned about the debate of who takes what amount of knockback- none of you know the game mechanics well enough. One of you is gonna go in such depth that it's not going to be accurate enough to correlate to a real-time scenario. As for me, how much I know about knockback doesn't matter, because I'm not trying to say anything about it. The dude cheats. He's using reach.

 

bro i dont care how these game mechanics work, I said the kb can be explained, but then again i also said some things can't. which is why I wanna ask why you looked over that, who knows if he cheated? only him, without you being directly in his files, you won't know bro, this game aint this serious I barely even touch it anymore, my main was on a couple days ago for a few minutes, my actual account hasnt been on in a month, https://www.brawl.com/players/collector I just don't understand why people take this game so serious sometimes, have fun, bet you that you still liked fighting him since he gave you some of a challenge

you look like a get back on topic <3 jk im sorry i got you :' )

 

staff are like my wellness teacher.
me: *casually looks around*
wellness teacher: AY! HWAT ARE YOU DOIN? LOOKIN AROUND? FITTY PUSHUPS!


me: *says **** because upset at something someone did*

staff: *bans muslim_vin for swearing , gives an additional mute for after unban, and 3 warns for incase i do it again*


perfect analogy

 

Okay, now I understand where you're coming from. It may appear that I'm being "biased", but what I'm saying is that from my experiences with playing with Xion, he wasn't a cheater. Even in the times I played against him I knew he wasn't a cheater. There were times when we hated each other, and I still knew he wasn't a cheater. I never accused him of it (mostly accused @Havai lol) because he never gave me a reason to. That's my experience with him, and if I see a good video that blatantly shows him cheating, I would admit it. So far, I haven't seen one.

I used one curse (sh*t) in that whole post I made that you just quoted. So I really don't think it makes me look mad, and it definitely shouldn't make you feel like you're winning an argument. I honestly couldn't care less what you believe, I'm giving you facts and it's your decision whether to believe them or not. You gave me statistics from a server that isn't even up anymore, and I admit a few years ago I played the hell out of this server. Even then I still maintained a life, did well in school went to parties hung out with friends etc. I would play 3 or 4 hours a day, but keep in mind this was when I was in middle school/early high school. Back then I had little to no responsibilities other than getting good grades. Nowadays I have college auditions (one of the top music schools in the country), a job, and still have to focus on grades. So I can tell you right now, whether you believe me or not, I don't "no-life" anything anymore. Whether or not I reply to you on the forums makes no difference to that because it only takes 10 minutes with your paragraphs. Sure I still play games (Csgo, Fortnite only pretty much) but that goes into about a couple hours a day. That's the last I'm posting on this topic.

Two mutes for hackusating would be caused by hackusating only, no other scenarios. I'm not missing context, as I've been told by people I've asked that you do it in game quite a lot (not naming names unless they want to be named). Months ago, everyone on the server might have thought you were a cheater. But were you? I'm willing to bet there was a lot of evidence against you (i.e Jay said your head was flicking around hard, setting off anticheat, etc.) but you still claim that you weren't cheating and it was false. Seems like this is the exact situation is that if you're telling the truth. You think Xion is hacking when he claims he's not. Except Xion didn't set off any anticheat and most people disagree with his punishment. Also, would you mind pointing out where I said "it requires techniques to reduce knock back"? I checked all the pages of this thread but I couldn't find it. Could be because I'm tired, could be because you're making it up.

There's also no way to prove I'm "wasting away" anywhere else as well. Just because I have a lot of kills in a gamemode where you get quite a lot of kills per game from several years ago does not mean I no life somewhere else today. No correlation whatsoever. You don't have to believe that I got 50 kills every second because I never said I did, I just assumed you knew what a kill streak was which apparently you don't. In 2014 I would play for a couple hours almost every day. Within those 2 hours would hold say 30 games. Almost every game I would get 40-50 kills, sometimes over 100. 40 kills for every game out of 30 games would give me 1200 kills per day which is what I would average. Do that every day for a year and you'd get 438,000 kills for one whole year. That's about twice the amount of kills I currently have today (on the server that's not even online anymore). So yeah, it really is not that hard to get a lot of kills on war if you are good at the game, which I was.

I'm not "accustomed" to a warped screen, you can easily tell the amount of blocks he's hitting you over in the clip you showed me. It might look like reach to you, but there is a variety of factors that you failed to consider such as a visual glitch that could occur. One clip is not enough proof to get somebody banned for reach, especially on a broken server. Especially when that clip is only a few seconds long. Send in more clips to prove that he did that commonly and I'd believe it.

And 4 other current/former staff members I've asked that prefer not to be named. And the amount of players that have told you that take the same knock back as well.

You told me that "Brawl join dates don't matter" and then try to prove that it does. I agree that it doesn't matter, I was simply responding to your accusation that I joined in October 2013 when in fact I didn't.

I don't need to know more than you about this situation. I don't care if you're better or "more experienced" than me at melee combat, reach is reach. I know the bugs that occur on this server more than you do as I've been here longer, and you failed to consider them when you uploaded the single clip of Xion supposedly using reach. And if I wasn't experienced with cheaters I wouldn't have gotten staff on this server.

Talking on the forums does not correlate to in game playtime. The difference between us two is that, you still grind Minecraft servers.

I called you a random on the forums which is what we're talking on. I don't care what your 20 player base server says about you or the "famous" 1k subscribed YouTubers who think you're decent at the game. If you didn't care about your reputation, you wouldn't be trying so hard to defend it.

 

You gain experience by working at something over a long period of time (thereby learning how to do it). You can't say you're more experienced than someone else just because you picked something up faster.

But that's just phonetics I guess

Yes the staff are corrupt. They're being paid by the 'Big Brawl' crime syndicate to ban independently minded minemen in a desperate effort to suppress the Forces of Freedom

That's fine. You have to be BY FAR one of the edgiest players I've come across. No offense ofc

Claims bias -> does not show examples or explain how ban was actually related to bias

Also, referencing what I said earlier - if someone really wanted to ban you it'd be for your being a toxic, edgy, annoying teenager. And no, you don't need 40 mutes in 8 months or whatever for that to happen. No one would need to waste their time coming up with some silly excuse to ban you for hacking

You keep claiming they're incompetent but relative to what? How are you measuring incompetence?

Has differing opinion -> 'must be "ass kissing"'

Again, any evidence of that claim would actually be appreciated.

Then by all means bring up more examples.

Okay. That's one example

Again, where is the evidence of that?

I mean, you say 'false' and 'bias' more than Trump says 'fake news'. If you want to be unbanned make an appeal. And I agree the appeals system is bad, but tell me one server that has a good appeals system. It's not easy to find

 

I'm not denying I hackusated to get those mutes? I said the circumstances in which I got them (the part you're missing) determines whether or not it was truly immature. I'm positive you'd be able to understand the difference between "****ING CHEATER" and a simple defensive retaliation against someone who's hypocritical and publicly defaming me ("how can you hackusate me when you're the only one cheating?"). And I'm almost positive that anyone you would've asked for an opinion would have said anything to make me sound bad. Probably someone like Ghale/ToughBadger, who still hackusates me despite himself never even seeing me in-game, let alone fight me. If you've been peeking at my mutes, you'll notice I don't have ten flame or harassment warnings because I'm not having raging and immature outbursts on the server every minute. However, if we look at your mutes, you've got 9 warns for very childish reasons. Constant flame, disrespect, and even DoX threatening someone over minecraft. It doesn't matter how long ago they were either, since the dates on my mutes don't matter to you. It reflects how you speak to me here.

Normal FOV vs 90 FOV: https://prnt.sc/jftj2a
Both players are exactly 3 blocks away, yet 90 FOV appears further away. This is what you're used to. Naturally, the distance on my screen seems like nothing to you. And when you're looking off of first person evidence, counting blocks is in no way an accurate measurement of someone's reach. If it was, then my proof would most definitely be 100% undeniable; anytime Player A is combo'ed by Player B, no matter if Player B is cheating or not, the distance that Player A is being hit from according to his own perspective will always be more than 3 blocks. This is why Player A can't hit the other person even if his cross hair is directly on top of Player B.

Haven't you done nothing but try to prove to me that the staff on this server are both often and currently wrong?

I don't have more time than you on this server altogether, but I have plenty more time spent than you on the kit server and not once have I seen a Brawl-specific bug occur in which a player randomly gets more reach for no apparent reason. And my minute-long, inventory-vs-inventory fight with Xion definitely showed no signs of any kind of graphical bug. There are definitely no minute-long graphical bugs that gives a player a half-block extra reach on me for the entire decent-length fight. The only thing I can think of is the very, very old bug that used to happen YEARS ago when a player could be graphically placed a block or two further away in the x, y, or z direction than they actually were (it only lasted seconds and it was dead obvious). Like how sometimes a player would be in the ground or in the air. That bug is long gone. Countless modern plugins have quick fixes for it.

I suppose you need some more practice to work off the rust before defending your friend who you don't even play minecraft with anymore.

If you didn't have an explosive ego, you wouldn't be using "random" as a way to make someone feel inferior. Especially when they aren't inferior. But it's for this reason that I enjoy seeing you call me it.

And you're so edgy that you think no one is above you. Even google can't match what's in your head. Google definitions are wrong when you've got something to say about it.

In what world did something have to be about freedom or government in order to be corrupt? A McDonalds manager can be corrupt lmao

If I'm edgy for calling you an idiot, then so is everyone else in this thread I suppose; it does indeed seem to be your primary insult. Neither side of the argument likes you. And it's a legitimate dislike; I'm having fun with tallscot. You're just nonsense.

 

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That's a lot of dislike for one person on the internet

 

I'm not talking about maturity, I'm talking about calling out players for hacks when you could easily get them banned without starting an argument in chat. Doesn't matter how you say it, you're still hackusating.

Never asked ToughBadger.

Never accused you of having 'raging' and 'immature outbursts' on the server every minute, accused you of hackusating. If we look at my mutes, those were from last October. The 'DoX threat' was false, which was why I was unbanned early (told somebody I'd get Trogs when he was SMOD to IP track them and get them banned for alting). Sure, your last mutes were from a while back as well, but I've asked people and they say nothing's changed. You can't find anybody to claim that I still flame in game, especially because I don't play the server.

Weird how I can use a quote against you without making that quote up, something you conveniently left out from your response to me

I've done nothing but try to prove to you that you're wrong along with one SMOD. And the staff today is severely different from the staff in 2014.

Once again, if you give me more than one tiny clip of an instance in the fight where it looks like Xion is using reach I'd believe it. There are visual glitches that occur on the server (on WarZ and War anyway) and have occurred on Kit as well, as I played it when the newer Kit came out. I even played the Beta before it was released and that glitch was there too. Now whether it's been fixed is the question, but from my understanding it is/was a thing pretty recently.

Practice with what? Defending Xion? It really isn't that hard, your points so far have only taken about 5 minutes to reply to, while you seem to be taking quite a lot longer to reply to mine. Maybe you should take your own advice.

"Explosive ego"
I called you a random because that's what you are to me and you seem to be trying to prove you're not. If I had an "explosive ego" I would've told you by now that I'm better than you in every way. Getting your terms mixed up bud, insulting somebody does not mean I have a big ego.

Every single one of your posts became nonsense as soon as you tried to lie and twist words to make your argument make more sense. You literally took a quote from @ToughBadger, deleted his name and put in mine to make it look like I said something he did, and then you failed to respond when I called you out on it. You have zero credibility, stop trying.

proof in case this man tries to delete/edit it because we all now know he's quite the snake

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Ah, yes but you did try to say that my hackusation was due to an immature spite for losing. Isn't in my nature.

Never said you did, but I'm given the strong feeling whoever you asked is quite like him.

I haven't played the server much myself since 9/10 times I look at the player count for the kit server it's basically vacant. And even when I am on, I've had no rivalry with any cheater in a long time, not since IllegalHits got banned (has almost been a month now). So I know something's not right here. I don't know what it is because there's no names.

What? How does me never using reach have anything to do with it not being accurate to measure the blocks on the ground?

+ Removers
+ All the staff members that talked in discord about it, which SoCool obviously did not make up.

You completely balled up and threw away what I wrote without reading it.

My gyazo gif was not the entirety of the proof that got Xion banned.

No, who said it was hard to defeat him, and what does defeating him have to do with whether or not he cheats? You need to work off the rust before you can tell what is and isn't cheats again (if you were ever even able to). And you haven't played MC with him recently (if you aren't lying) so I don't think you know all that he's been up to. So, as biased as you are, I don't think you even have enough proof for yourself to believe it let alone have enough to make me believe it. And it takes me a few hours to find the time to write a reply out, not to actually write. Why are you calling this out exactly?

Even in ways that aren't relative to the topic or for my validity (insulting my popularity)? Ohhhh.

If you'll notice I wasn't talking to you about this (maybe you already know that?) http://prntscr.com/jgc0gk
Anyway, honest mistake; while replying to you and Ghale at the same time I got mixed up between the two of you and instead of going to the previous page to make a reply to the specific post in which this statement was said (it makes me write it on a different tab because it's on a different page), I copy and pasted the response into a quote. You both have similar (ironically) satirical attitudes and I wasn't matching up which thought came from who. So you're not contradicting yourself as I originally thought. However, you are contradicting each other. It's still just as amusing. I'm not sure when you called me out on this earlier, but perhaps I hadn't understood what you meant since I didn't realize I mixed anything up. This is what happens when you argue alongside someone who isn't very smart (Ghale). I've matched dramatically idiotic opinions to your mindset due to your grasshopper of a companion.