I'm disappointed by how this new revamp has turned out

lol what bruh, stop blaming this on me, if you have been paying attention, for the first couple of months on the year, it was me making changes to the map and events that everyone loved lol... I think I know the community, ofc you guys don't like this update, thats understandable. Your voices have been heard, stuff is changing. We have a live thread, with all updates and changes. Maybe go check it out ey? I played WarZ since 2016, sorry I didn't spend 5-6 years playing the game, but its okay, I mean just know we're trying our best though so yah :/

 

Add me as well pls. Don't even need to play the gamemode to see the flaws in it.

I seriously don't understand why this was ever thought to be a good idea. I'm not trying to be toxic here, but please @chickenputty, what was the reasoning behind merging the two servers? Yes, they were both struggling beforehand, but why take such a risky decision and decide to merge 2 gamemodes (one being a huge staple of brawl), killing off certain elements of each? These elements, whether they be large or small, make the servers unique and attract what few players brawl has to them. Why would combining 2 gamemodes be the right decision when it isn't really geared towards bringing in new players? This is something that brawl has really been struggling with and I don't think the merge helps. Imo, what should have been done, specifically for WarZ, was to create changes to bring back the old players who quit. They are still sort of in contact with brawl, so if you can bring them back, it gives more of a base to bring in new players in general. I seriously don't see this gamemode working out in the long run mainly for these reasons, and considering that you've essentially pissed off a large list of people in the OP, it doesn't look like it's going too smoothly already. Sure, you can update and add fixes here and there, but the larger issues such as the map or 2 completely different fighting techniques aren't something that can be solved to please both groups.

Although I don't play brawl/mc any longer, this is quite frustrating to see happen, and it would be a shame to see this first ****ty impression make people give up on the brawl/ww/warz entirely. I hope you can pull some miracle out of your ass, but at the same time it is quite entertaining at the moment.

The zero product property states that if ab = 0, then either a = 0 or b = 0, or both a and b are 0. When the product of factors equals zero, one or more of the factors must also equal zero. Sort of joking with this, but somewhat relevant in a sense.

 

WarZ was a sinking ship, that's the reasoning.

Wild West's core features were kept intact and so far, the staff have responded to criticism and are implementing features to help the WarZ players.

I don't know why you're trying to tell the owner of the server how much it's making, I'd assume he already knows that.

That's what happens when nobody on WarZ is responsible enough to be staff... Jay is definitely listening to the WarZ community and adding things they are asking for.

Maybe if you wanted active WarZ staff members you could, I don't know, apply for staff?

Not to mention that I knew of about 2 people that were mature enough to have been staff if they had wanted to, but becoming staff would put a target on their backs for getting hit off constantly and getting dox'd so they decided not to apply.

 

Sorry if you feel offended, but you cant just make up for all those years not playing, and I've rarly seen you online and actually engaged with the community. And hosting events are not really changing the game, it only brings people online for 30 minutes. If you guys did listen to the community and let us be in charge of how the game should be, maybe you would of received better critisism of the merge, and maybe had a better game to play?? After all, its us players who are going to be playing it.

All I hear so far about every idea, is that its to much work or not do-able, when I know for sure, most of the changes people want "plugin" wise would only take a few hours to reprogram.

Nearly every idea added into the game, have been ideas from moderators... Wonder why??

And yes sure @JayOG , you might have tried your best, but you've certainly tried the wrong ways....
Instead of adding what you and the rest of the staff team think are good ideas, ask us what we want, and then do it if thats what people want?? no excuses...

And for the love of god, PLEASE JUST MAKE A COMMUNITY meeting once in a while! where you gather the playerbase of each server and ask them what they want added!! maybe have one each month or something??? A lot more people would respond in chat if asked, instead of making a looong forum post which most likly will be ignored because it does not fit the staff team, and many players dont even bother checking the forums anymore, those people will respond ingame tho. Legit just ask us what we want, instead of forcing stuff on us!

 

No, every idea has came from threads. Literally Putty put it in the main thread from where he got every idea. You're jumping into conclusions bro without seeing the facts. Also, making the WarZ incharge of something is not a good thing.

 

A sinking ship might be a little too strong of a term, but it definitely needed some work before. However, smaller updates in rotations to other gamemodes could have been done if dev time is limited, keeping things fresh and possibly fix some of the issues. This merge just blows everything up imo, as it essentially is just a new gamemode entirely. My biggest complaint is that it's ruining the familiarity of the gamemodes, specifically warz which is a staple of brawl. Updates shouldn't do that, they should keep the core features in tact while freshening things up to modern palates.

 

Idea for what? the new gamemode? Im talking about how you guys used to moderate and run WarZ, not the new WildWest renamed to WarZ. And listen to yourself??? Why should we not be put in charge of the gamemodes?! We are the ones who are going to be playing them!! You want us to play, but dont want to listen to us, where is the logic?!! omg, tbh I dont care anymore, the server wont last when the staff wont listen to its community. My last reply on this subject, have fun.

How the server should be run:

- Admins++: Make sure the server is running, and dont play themselves, listen to the people, add their ideas, host meetings with the players asking them what they want etc..

- Moderators: Just moderate and ban people, keep it clean of hackers, should not have an impact on the decisions on the server, since their main goal is to moderate, and not play!

- Players(Community): Come up with ideas, and tell them to admins etc..


Thats the way hypixel run their staff team, or at least the basics of it, and guess what? it works...
The way WarZ was ran, it felt like moderators came up with the ideas, players did not have much to say, admins would rarly change the game and listen to the people what they wanted. Nearly every WarZ player would agree....

 

It was a sinking ship, I don't think there's a way around that. The numbers have been on a steady decrease since the 1.8 update in 2015, and so has the revenue.

 

I personally enjoyed the though of bringing the two survival gun modes together to make this new gamemode. I feel that with time and patience it will become quite populated and enjoyed. The main reason I believe people are so ready to hop on the "I hate this new gamemode" bandwagon is due to the fact that its something different for both communities. Rather that be the comboing or the sheriffs and cartels. With time this gamemode should grow and become a server that people can easily hop into and learn without getting smack'ed within minutes.

 

What planet are you living on

 

Again, talking about WarZ....

 

That isn't just brawl though, that is Minecraft as a whole. This server isn't the only server losing players. Mineplex normally had around 20k players online on a weekday (even more on weekends), now it is rare to break 10k on a weekend.

 

when double more people hate it but you're still defending the retarded gamemode

 

Mineplex died but Hypixel surged if I recall correctly.

Doesn’t matter if WarZ is dying or Minecraft is, either way the numbers are decreasing so changes had to be made.

It’s unbelievable how biased you are considering you started playing WarZ in 2016.

 

Quite frankly, I think a lot of your posts should go Unsaid...

Why are you arguing against the people complaining? The majority of them are offering suggestions on how to fix them, so what's the big deal? The responses you've made to my posts are offering nothing worthwhile for discussion. Essentially, you're just saying "no, this happened bc things are dead" over and over again, which is starting to get annoying with you policing threads like this. Yes, things are dead, but I was arguing that a different approach should have been made (or still can be made), not the current one of this merge.

So kindly, please please please stop responding to my posts in such an incompetent manner.

Much appreciated.

 

They are saying the new gamemode is stupid and it should be reverted, which is not going to happen.

I really don't understand where the discussion is...? The server was extremely low on players and the revenue was beginning to fall as well. WarZ was not going to be able to function longer as it was, and a drastic rework was probably the best solution.

Your posts are so passive-aggressive it's actually unbelievable. Everyone can see you have a grudge against Brawl staff for denying you, but your posts make very little sense.

"My biggest complaint is that it's ruining the familiarity of the gamemodes, specifically warz which is a staple of brawl."

Ok? WarZ was a staple of Brawl. It was averaging about 10-15 active players before the ELITE giveaway.

You legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. Have you played the new gamemode? Every person I talked to who played WarZ before the reset is enjoying the new gamemode and trying to iron out the flaws.

 

It doesn't matter if I've played it or not, and my original post here actually had nothing to do with the gameplay of things. It was purely inquiring about the decision and what was expected by it. It's not too late for some changes to be reverted or added, that's the point of making threads like this now. I just think it's a shame to see such an iconic server ruined. Now, if you don't agree with my posts that's fine, but I can't help but get annoyed when your responses are so obnoxious.

Don't think I'm breaking any rules here, so what's the issue? I don't appreciate him responding on every post I've made on this topic with the same empty comments essentially saying "No, you're wrong" or however you want to take it as. I'm absolutely fine if people don't agree with my opinions, as I'm disagreeing with an opinion here myself... However, what is bothersome is the approach he's taking to do so. Whether it's intended or not, I don't really care, but it's annoying to me so I kindly asked him to stop. Sorry I don't like half assed arguments on everything I post.

 

WarZ and Wild West were also completely two different entities. The fact that it was possible to win fights outnumbered in WarZ proves how important individual skill was. On the other hand, the emphasis on team play in the Wild West setting often separated the winning team from the losing team. There is no synergy between the two. It's like trying to pour oil in water- they don't mix.

Integrating a gamemode with fifteen players with another gamemode with fifteen players doesn't guarantee thirty. You're expecting players to learn how to play a new gamemode when they've spent months getting accustomed to a different one. In my opinion, you'd be lucky to carry over half of the WarZ/Wild-West community.