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Engineer Useless now?!????

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by plat03, Sep 17, 2018.

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  1. plat03

    plat03 Member

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    Can someone even recall what the purpose of adding Engineer in the first place was? Because no one remembers it

    I bought Engineer and it wasn't really worth and for some reason, when I recently bought Engineer it was more powerful than it is now for some reason, because now the Turret can't even kill Ninja, like come on you've been shooting it for like 5 times and how is it not dead?!!!! It doesn't even knock someone back as it used to anymore

    Like the thing is what's the point of Engineer? Defending, oh yeah right you can't place Turret near flag or at anywhere it could've been useful for defending AT ALL

    The only thing I find it good for is teleporting teammates and attempt spawnkilling.

    Basically it's useless now

    Give me a reason to change my mind and disagrew
     
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  2. TTD3

    TTD3 Well-Known Member

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    Appeal to noobs.

    Pepperidge farm remembers.

    being able to kill people while afk.

    totally not map dependant and quite relative.

    disgusting.

    Yes yes obviously it is useless if you don't want free afk kills.



    Seriously, I'm quite unsure whether or not your threads are sarcasm or you actually believe all the things you write...
     
  3. scapezar

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    comparing it to how it was (and everything was) on MCPVP, this is a very reasonable, understandable opinion tbh ngl coming from a less experienced player

    in the hands of a skilled regular, engineer can be quite useful and annoying as hek; otherwise, it's nothing too special or safe enough to have fun killing/supporting...for how squishy it is and semi-unreliable its turret is for any1 (esp a ninja) being able to sneakily break the turret while not getting shot at when directly adjacent to it
     
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  4. Pizze

    Pizze Well-Known Member

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    I hate this the most because it doesnt make sense, if i put the barrel of a gun literally against my face there is no way the shot wont hit me.
     
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    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    You can use it to kill those pesky Ninjas you struggle with so much. Just put down a turret, find a corner sorta far away, put down a cake, and steak when you get targeted by everyone.
     
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    Everyone has their own skill for each kit, you are probably great at some other kit, while others are great with the engineer kit, and have a low standard with the other kits.
    It's a matter of opinion.
     
  7. Nakatago

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    Necro > Engineer.
     
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    Correction:

    Necro > All classes
     
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  9. plat03

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    How?

    Gave Engineer another chance today. Turns out he’s good for TP CAP. Got like 4 today XD

    Still he couldn’t do that much
     
  10. Paddishly

    Paddishly The Australian

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    Speaking of, can we disable TP Caps? Like ninja caps are annoying, but often easily stopped. TP Caps are a whole other level.
     
  11. plat03

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    But it’s not in a instant. There’s still time for you to stop the engie before reaching his teleporter and it really depends on maps.
    Some maps you have to go really far to get into the teleporter while some can be near the flagroom
     
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  12. Paddishly

    Paddishly The Australian

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    Yeah I feel, I guess it’s the maps that the engi’s set up can be close to the flag room that irritate me. Plus, if they have a turret down, it is somewhat harder to stop them from getting on the teleporter, which can also be irksome. Guess at the end of the day it’s a rule that fits in matches and not causal.
     
  13. plat03

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    If people are smart they would know how to stop a teleporting engie. If a Engie is TP Capping I would immediantly go to their spawn where the teleporter output are there and wait instead of running after a Engie with a sentry set down
     
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  15. ExtremeEvoboost

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    TP Caps are more easily stopped than ninja caps, if your letting an engineer in or out of your flagroom with the flag, give him the time to stand perfectly still on a teleporter, and then have nobody on your offense or recovery even try to stop him from jogging to the flagroom, your defense is pretty incompetent.
    Ninja capping is far more annoying due to the sudden-ness & speed a ninja has, while it too can be stopped its usually a “blink and you’ll miss it” thing where the slightest distraction could mean a cap.
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    Engineer is very commonly considered the noob class, to some extent that would be a correct assessment, but with a bit of hyperbole. Its very easy to be decent at engineer due to its annoying aimbot turret. But pretty much any player of higher skill can take it down easily, unless your like ninja and they’re already turtling.
    A good engineer turns from a minor nuicense to a memace that gets people to call it the pain in the ass it can really be, good luck killing a skilled player playing as engi with no less than a buffed heavy or a chemist, cuz your sure as hell never finding them in a headshottable location
    Oh and engineer’s breed like crazy.
     
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    Give me a reason to change my mind and disagrew[/QUOTE]

    Well enggi is useful for back telepads. in other words place a telepad going from the other teams flag to your flag, meaning you don't have to run across the map. You only have to run to a tp pad. So, basically you just tp back to your side of the map, without running back, good for easy caps.
     
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    When people usually engi tele cap they go as 3 engis and they all set up and there is with them because of the teleport like 2 heavies a ninja and medic. Now let's say I log in and see that how would I be able to stop them in case it's a map where headshots are not gonna work?
    Stopping them while they are running into the place is an option but let's say they set it up already, what can I do in that situation where there are now like 5 players with cakes and turrets and one of them with the flag?
     
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    In a game like CTF where a class's abilities cannot be used in certain locations because it would be too OP/unfair says a lot about the bad class design. (engi, elf, necro)
     
  20. plat03

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    Too bad this doesn’t apply to a powerful class like Ninja
     
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