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Idea Where did the 1.0 server go?

Discussion in 'MC-War' started by jango_bob, Sep 20, 2018.

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  1. jango_bob

    jango_bob Bleh

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    Ok so first off what happened to the 1.0 server. second you should make a mob at the lobby behind the 2.0 mob allowing you to join 1.0. a few players are disgusted by 2.0. when you remove 1.0 your only gonna lose players, all my friends from 1.0 (50 or something) have not been online since they found out it was removed and tried to play 2.0. please put 1.0 online!


    EDIT: forgot to mention you should bring back old warz because the new one is flat out AIDS and a complete disgrace. new warz is wildwest with guns carried over from other servers and tons of renaming. OR GET A GOD DAMN DEVELOPER!!! HOW HARD IS THAT?
     
  2. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Pretty hard...
     
  3. jango_bob

    jango_bob Bleh

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    all ya got to do is post on mc-market your looking for a dev and post the qualifications for one. then you pay him so he does something.
     
  4. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    No-one ever played it so it was removed.

    We do not want to attract players to Legacy War. It's a very outdated gamemode and War 2.0 has considerably more potential for growth.

    The vast majority of complaints about 2.0 are from people who don't even play Brawl anymore.

    Legacy War never, ever had players as soon as we added War 2.0. Almost everyone either preferred War 2.0, or got very salty and quit Brawl in protest.

    Legacy War can never be updated again due to how fragile the code is. Whenever we tried to update Legacy War, it the code would break. If Legacy War was brought back it would never be able to grow again. Bringing back Legacy War is the equivalent of us giving up hopes of War ever being revived.

    Why do you think WarZ is "AIDS" and a "complete disgrace"? You seem to be very passionate about it - surely you are able to give us a better insight than comparing it to an STD?

    In order to "pay him" we need to:
    • Finish the changes we are making to the backend, to make Brawl easier to run (probably a 6 month job for all gamemodes)
    • Increase our revenue by monetising all gamemodes better (again, probably a 6 month job)
    • Decide what we're actually going to do with this dev to make all this effort worthwhile
    • In the meantime, continue to add new features to our existing gamemodes to help mitigate the declining playercounts

    We're not idiots. If getting a developer was as easy as you are making it out to be, we would have done it. It's like saying "JUST GET MORE PLAYERS!!! IT'S EASY!!!". No, it isn't.
     
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  5. jango_bob

    jango_bob Bleh

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    nobody ever played it because you shoved it into a dark hole. if you shed some light on it players might actually know how to play it. nobody can join a server they do not know exist. ps: what will you do when brawl dies?
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    We made it very clear to every community member that to join Legacy War, you join War 2.0 then type /legacy. We made it difficult to discover for new players because we did not want to attract new players to Legacy War. You need to realise how little potential Legacy War had. War 2.0 was a risk which we simply had to take because Legacy War would have never been revived.

    I absolutely agree War 2.0 could have been executed better. It's a complex gamemode; we needed a developer working on War 2.0 for at least 5-6 months after it was released to fix issues and sort out people's complaints. It would have also been nice to give SMod+ the ability to change gun values so they could balance guns themselves. However, even though it was arguably poorly executed, War 2.0 still has considerably more potential for growth than Legacy War. That is why Legacy War will never be added back, unless we decide to give up on War's revival (which I think we all hope will never happen).

    If most of Brawl's current gamemodes die, our best bet would to start with a clean state. Remove all it's dead gamemodes and make a new gamemode, working very closely with any remaining community members to make it something everyone would want to enjoy. Try and build a new server from the ground up again, eventually maybe re-adding revamped versions of old gamemodes. I'll admit, it's unlikely anyone would try to do this, but it could be anyone who does this. It doesn't have to be the existing staff team (and it's something I'd attempt if I had the time).
     
  7. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    The fact you believe legacy has any potential for anything up to this point is pretty funny.
     
  8. jango_bob

    jango_bob Bleh

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    the fact you believe legacy is bad is stupid. do you even know why brawl exists still? it runs off of little to no cosmetic and kit donations from ctf. and what happens when ctf is gone? we are ALL gone! brawl can't keep up.




    and if brawl trashes legacy like that then maybe they could hand the plugin down to me :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  9. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    Tbh Brawl has not been making good decisions for the overall server and player-retention, especially in a business perspective; but bringing legacy back would be another mistake to add to the pile. I don't think you understand how fundamentally flawed and outdated legacy war is and you're simply blinded by nostalgia. War2 isn't perfect by any means but it's objectively much, much better. Give war2 it's own dedicated developer, have the BT continue to rework maps (don't halfass it bc obv some maps were) and really hammer down on advertising and war2 could be a really popular gamemode.
     
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  10. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    there is literally only one or two higher ups that actually care about the server, brawl's dead lol
     
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  11. ragewolf120YT

    ragewolf120YT Active Member

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    war 1.0 worst gamemode ever invented dont @ me
     
  12. AgentSilverfish

    AgentSilverfish not v cool

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    He is not saying legacy is bad, he is saying that if it was added back, there would be no potential. No one would play because all the old players have moved on from minecraft. Plus, the new players would probably stay with war 2.0
     
  13. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    RAGEWOLF DOWN I REPEAT RAGEWOLF DOWN
     
  14. MildlySweet

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    Any hopes that brawl would let someone pay/manage another server just for 1.0?
     
  15. jango_bob

    jango_bob Bleh

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    i would gladly host it via my host (i already own a server so i could just add to it)
     
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  16. iamdroone

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    prolly not since it has like 0 potential at this point and hasn't been updated in like years. it will just be better if 2.0 was just updated more than re-releasing legacy once again.
     
  17. AgentSilverfish

    AgentSilverfish not v cool

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    Back before 2.0 was released, everyone was complaining about how 2.0 isn't out yet. Now that 2.0 is out, everyone is complaining and asking for legacy back.
     
  18. KekTheEksdeee

    KekTheEksdeee Lord of Spaghetti and Coffee

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    @HauntedKO I know i have no right to know, but how much money would the Brawl staff need to actually be able to pay a 1-2 Developers, and maby change several things on brawl?

    Maby we could start some kind of Crowdfounding. I, at least, would be willing to help you financly, to a certain amount of course.
     
  19. Avivox

    Avivox Well-Known Member

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    why did you tag me in this I’m not brawl staff
     
  20. KekTheEksdeee

    KekTheEksdeee Lord of Spaghetti and Coffee

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    Ah **** sry, wrong name
     
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