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engi nerf

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Goat_4444, Apr 19, 2019.

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  1. Goat_4444

    Goat_4444 Member

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    in its current state engi is very frustrating to deal with at close range. tnt spam is the main reason for this as engis can pump out tnt every ~4 sec dealing 3-4 hearts of damage to anyone attempting to attack them

    rather than changing range or damage i think a fix for this would be to make it so that an engineer takes damage from its own tnt, leading to much more strategic and skill based tnt placement so as to avoid damage. while i dont think this is the perfect solution i do believe it is better than the system that is currently in place

    this solution doesnt make engi nonviable in close range, as engis can push attackers back to a range safe to tnt by using their pickaxe w/ kb 1. as an added benefit it enables engis to tnt jump, which is an interesting mechanic that can be useful in certain situations, but not unbalanced as it comes with the expense of damage
     
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    #1 Goat_4444, Apr 19, 2019
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  2. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Yes I kind of think the TNT is braindead, with 0 focus on it supposedly being made for range
     
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  3. Dragoarg

    Dragoarg Well-Known Member

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    Pyros arrows don’t explode on the pyro and no ones complained about it before
     
  4. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    fire does only 1 heart of damage, engi can do up to 4 hearts of true dmg every 2 seconds while pyro has to fully charge an arrow, and he can actually do dmg with his axe, theres no problem with pyro except that it now has an iron chest
     
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    Dragoarg Well-Known Member

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    You can take more than one heart with a fully charged arrow and get set on fire which does a lot plus if you get lit on fire you can take considerably more damage because of the arrow so it’s fine. Just learn to dodge.
     
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    CrazySchnetzler Active Member

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    I think its nearly one hitting ninja when the tnt is placed close to the ninja.
     
  7. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    There is so much wrong with this statement. If you actually time the engineer launcher it has a 5 second cooldown. It takes about 2-3 seconds for a pyro to fully charge their bow, and then about 4-5 hits for a pyro to kill. Please don't over exaggerate the strength of engineer, I know the class might need some tweaking, but saying things that are inaccurate gives people the wrong idea on how to fix it.
     
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  8. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    lul it's 2019 and people still want to nerf engineer

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  9. Exeadra

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    Erm... TNT cooldown is 3.5 seconds. And I don’t know if I’m hallucinating or not, but whenever I was ninja and a TNT blows up on me directly, I take the full damage of the TNT (sometimes losing all my heath of 6-8 hearts)
     
  10. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Its true damage and unless you've been death tagged, the max it will do is 4 hearts.
     
  11. Exeadra

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    I found a way to deal 10 hearts to ninja with engi. It is a bug and I am testing it out with other classes as I speak.
     
  12. Goat_4444

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    there's also a bug that allows engi to shoot tnt through glass

    @redslime plz fix
     
  13. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Same with mage ice
     
  14. StormNox

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    It's extremely suprising how the people who think engineer is overpowered and the people who think engineer is underpowered are almost equal in number and their beliefs are similar.
     
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    #14 StormNox, Apr 21, 2019
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  15. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Just like the amount of people who think it should be a new class and not
     
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    I think the engineers nerf is enough if it’s nerfed anymore people just won’t play it.
     
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  17. Exeadra

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    Pretty sure people will still play it. I mean, Necro isn’t that good and yet I still see people playing it.
     
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    This is already known and it's not fixable. Blame Minecraft
     
  19. StormNox

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    Reminds me of that one chemist that just potspams and pretends that their sword dosen't exist. Same principle with mobs and how the necro pretends their pickaxe dosen't exist.

    To fix this glitch, there is one simple method which is easiest to complete. Of course, the least hated tnt, is no tnt at all.
    Either that or immediately imploding the tnt once it hits a block.
     
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