Idea Flag Poison Timer

Hello, I like the idea of there being a timer. It would help especially with winding with elf in my case. However, I would prefer there not to be a timer. I would prefer no timer as mastering movement with the timing of the flag poison (using the timer) is a skill. Its a minor skill that can seperate great offence players to offenders that are decent.

 

It has been a long time that we've not seen an idea to change how the flag poison is, so it's nice to see someone who is bringing up an idea about that. However, I think that showing the timer might cause some problems. Every flag carrier will be able to just drop the flag to not take the poison and pick up the flag back right after. I imagine this in casual CTF when there is no medic with you. So the player will be able to avoid the damage, which I don't think it is what we want. Also, at the moment, the mechanic of the flag poison is helping recovery because a flag carrier can take the flag poison without knowing the timer, so it is making the flag carrier more vulnerable. CTF already has a problem because of the long stalemates, so I don't think we should facilitate the job of the flag carrier by showing the timer. I know it is not a big difference, but I like the way the flag poison is right now, and I like how it is making the flag carrier more vulnerable, without doing too much damage to the flag carrier. Showing the timer will nerf the flag poison itself, which I don't think it is a good idea. I understand that sometimes the flag poison can be inconvenient in some situations, but for me it's a good part of the game.

By doing that, I really think it would nerf the assassin class. A lot of assassins main are using that glass pane to confuse their enemy, which I think is a good playstyle. To know if the assassin has all their powders or not, a medic can always ask in the chat if the assassin needs a restore. Also, the assassin can tell the medic to wait up using the drop key to indicate that they need a restore. So I don't think the glass pane should be changed.

 

Showing the flag poison timer is a good idea because it would help the flag carrier against that annoying poison but I think that it isn't really necessary as you can count the timer by yourself, which adds more difficulty and skill in capturing the flag. However, what I would like to be fixed is the fact that the flag poison timer after you steal / pick up the flag is random (I think the reason for that is that the poison is permanent and stays even when nobody has the flag). It can be 1 second or like 15 seconds, which I find a bit unfair so in my opinion the timer should start right when you steal the flag.
For the assassin change it isn't needed in my opinion but why not.

 

I agree it could counter the 'dropping flag' problem. I'm personally really fine about how the flag poison is at the moment, not knowing the timer of the tick never annoyed me.

 

We discussed this and came to the conclusion that the problem of the motion break through flag poison is too minor to justify a separate timer just for the poison ticks. I do like the idea of the colored glass panes as placeholders (I'd prefer grey or dark grey instead of white to blend in better with the hotbar), but unfortunately the code broke severely in the past when attempting to use colored ones due to their ID appendix. Maybe for the future!

 

I would appreciate it if there were a poison timer (at least new players would know why they're taking DaMAge like sometimes they actually have no idea) displayable timers should also be added to stuff like medic webs or assassinate, so u know roughly when it will be available for use. I know, it might not be that useful, but small details like that would help to provide that teensy bit of strategy and outplay potential in the game rather than me spamming right click until a Web comes back up

And yes a new glass pane for assassinate compared to speed boost would be perfect. Especially in casual matches, sometimes u don't know whether u need to restore the assassin or not, and it would help communicate the need for a medic to restore your assassinate.

Also hi @Exeadra c:

 

Woah dude MOBAS?! MOBAs are pretty kewl man. I don't even know whether my opinion is relevant lol. Yea it would be slightly useful but dunno whether u can add tiny little windows in Minecraft to show status effects (otherwise u can have a little timer thing/text like the text when someone steals a flag like the one above your item bar)

I think Nohox means it's not really that big of a deal, and even though it would be a nice addition for aesthetic and mildly useful purposes, it's not exactly at the top of their priority list for the game.

 

You are a genius and a really cool guy

 

That would be sick but sadly there isn't anything in Minecraft resembling such an effect