Idea [CLASS IDEA] [CLASS REWORK] Engineer, Necro, and Demo

Alright, so the engineer rework has had some pretty mixed reviews. I'm of the opinion its a good class idea, but not very engineer like, and gets rid of the original concept of the class, So I've come up with some ideas to keep engineer in a nerfed/slightly reworked state, while giving most of the new stats to a new class, Demo.


ENGINEER REWORK
Ok, so first of all, revert engineer back to how it used to be to get a starting position. The old engineer had some primary issues that made it way too strong in combat, requiring a concentrated effort to take down a nest, when it should be a support class. Also, its campy playstyle made it slow the game down significantly.

Plan: Make Engineer less campy while maintaining its original role.


Inventory:
Golden Helmet
Leather Tunic 1 orange dye
Leather Leggings 1 orange dye
Golden Boots
(all with protection one)

Diamond Pickaxe
(sharpness 1, Knockback 1)
x4 Steak
x2 Mini Turrets
Like the original turret but far weaker. Has 8 HP as compared to the turret's 20, and can be destroyed by breaking its glass pane base. It deals 1.5 True damage per shot. The Demo's Grenade Launcher (see below) can destroy it instantly. They, like all structures would have the same restrictions as the current speed pad. Once destroyed (either by a player, or the recall structures book) each has a 8 second delay before they can be placed again. They cannot shoot invisible ninjas.
Allows the engineer to be more mobile with its turrets, while still forcing them to move about since they are so easily destroyed.
Regeneration Aura
Same as the Current iterations Engi Update
Keeps engi mobile and not tied to a regenerator
Portable Jump Pad
Similar to how the speed pad functions, Gives allies jump boost 8 for 1 second when stepped on, and can only be used 5 times.
Useful for either chasing a soldier/elf, or allowing your team to escape a sticky situation
Recall Structures
Destroys all placed structures, 8 second recharge for the turret and jump pad on use.
Duh.



NECRO REWORK
Necro sucks right now and has no real role in the game.
Plan: Give Necro a purpose in life, er, death?

Inventory:
Iron Helmet
Golden Chestplate
Iron Leggings
Iron boots

Necro Sword
Sharpness I
Does 1 extra of true damage for every potion effect a player has on them.
Useful for chemists and buffed players
Grave Shovel
When players die, a small puff of redstone (similar to when you hold up a structure) will appear, only visible by necros, for 5 seconds. Right click it with the shovel to get a rotten flesh (up to 5 can be stored)
x3 Steak
(up to x3) Rotten Flesh
Rotten flesh can be used on yourself or other players, giving them regen 2 and absorption I for 5 seconds,
Right click on yourself or left click a teammate.
Necronomicon
Right click to void all special effects from enemy players, and inflict them with weakness and wither I for 8 seconds.
(Recharge of 20 seconds)
Effects Voided:
All Chemist Potions (Good or bad)
Mage regeneration
Elf Water Element potion effects
Necro Rotten Flesh
Other Necronomicon effect
Engineer Regenerator (fully drains charge if its being used)
Medic restore (resets timer)
Ninja Invisibility (silly powder until effect ends)
Ninja flash bombs
Death tags

DEMO CLASS IDEA
Turn Current Engineer into its own class, with some changes, as the new class is fun, but more fitting of a demoman than an engineer.
Plan: Make A new class based around explosives.


Inventory:
Iron Helmet
Iron Chestplate (blast protection I)
Leather Leggings
Iron Boots

Demo Pickaxe
Sharpness II
x5 Steak
Grenade Launcher
(See patch notes from update)
Can Destroy any structure (Turrets, Jump Pads, Mines) in 1 shot
x4 Demo Mines
Same Restrictions as all other structures. All players who step 1 block adjacent or on top of the mine will cause it to explode, dealing 6 of explosion damage. They cannot be placed more than 3 blocks apart from one another, and will damage the demo should they be in the blast radius. Regenerates one every 5 seconds. Takes 2 seconds to 'arm' (before it can detonate either by book or by proximity), they can also be broken by breaking the wool block or the button
Detonate!
Detonates all placed mines at once.

Let me know in the comments what you think about these ideas, I'd love to hear what you think, and am willing to change most of these ideas if necessary.

 

I was thinking the same thing, but didn’t want to give mage another buff.

That would be my idea. They do have 8 HP as listed, functioning the same compared to the normal 20 of a turret, and its base is a glass pane (about as easy to break as the old regenerator)

unfortunately current necro just doesn’t work, dunno what the team did but mob AI is inherently broken.

4, will be done.

forgot to mention, would also remove the death tag. But yes this was made specifically to make chemists think twice before potioning up, and give some sort of downside to having strength+speed+resistance+regeneration+fire resistance

 

The mini turrets would be more akin to the mini-sentry of tf2, with their much weaker damage output, veering less along the line of main damage dealer and more of a suppression or support role. A ninja, any of the classes with regen, or Demo could pretty simply focus it down if needbe.

Unfortunately, Redslime hath spoken and said mobs are completely broken and not likely to make a return in the next necro rework, so having it stray from what it already is, is not only inevitable, but probably preferrable.

Notice how I said explosion damage and not true damage, it would deal damage like a creeper blast, which still takes armor into account. I’d have to be crazy to think 6 hearts of true damage per mine is remotely justifiable xd