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Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by notfleb, May 5, 2020.

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  1. notfleb

    notfleb Well-Known Member

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    Recent discussions regarding the nature of the CTF Community have led me to another topic that I want to disclose for anyone who is still not entirely sure about what really happens beneath the surface.

    Autoclickers
    They are probably the least useful cheat in Minecraft pvp, but some people just have to get down on anything they can find. People with IQs in the range of 0-1 will just use them as they are and get banned when a mod looks up their logs - but alas, the legendary two digit IQ does exist! Just click randomly on top of a low-ish setting autoclicker to make it seem natural.

    Reach
    Boy do I love educating people on this mechanic.
    You are lazy, boo you. You don't want to press tab. Kid gets a sus hit on you - he's hacking, right? His ping says otherwise, I guess you're just bad.
    Toggle reach between 3.3 and 3.9 and you will bypass all forms of anticheat. Everyone will assume you are laggy, and if you don't, the people that do will just tell you to shut up.

    Knockback Mods
    Once again, 0-1 IQ people will just toggle antikb and get banned. But what happened literally 6 years ago? Some dude with a two digit IQ found out you could just modify the kb instead of removing it entirely. Reduce kb by 15-25% to effectively have the advantage without setting off packet warnings.

    Conclusion
    This type of **** has been around longer than I have. You can never fully confirm someone is legit without a versions screenshare. If I'm the first person to bring this kind of thing up, and any of you are surprised, may god have mercy on this server.
     
  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    What is the purpose of this thread? Somewhat confused.
     
  3. Arkenssine

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    Not too sure how to respond other than I guess your highlighting how hard it is to stop hackers with more than 2 brain cells?

    but crap post I shall

    Autoclickers
    These dudes are out there either setting their auto-clicker to such a speed that it bypasses the unbreakable modifier on items or grabbing a massage machine and strapping it to their mouse

    Reach
    When that kill from 30 blocks isn’t a headshot :tm:

    Knockback Mods
    When they’re still trying to figure out how to take less knock back but still haven’t realized their ping won’t get any better nor their 5 frames on their 15 year old Pc

    Conclusion

    “Like steroids for Minecraft. Vape includes the ... Vape V3. Undetectable; Internal GUI; 50+ features; Ghost features; Blatant features; 1.7.10 | 1.8.9 | 1.12.2. $ 34.99.”
     
  4. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    @closet cheaters
     
  5. notfleb

    notfleb Well-Known Member

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    This is continued support to my earlier messages about the staff team trying to handle more than they can chew. They're doing the best they can with outdated resources, or at the very least no knowledge of the above until now. I've already made my point known, but I feel like these analyses are almost necessary with how little any of the topics I've brought up over the last month were discussed when I was trial.
     
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  6. Daveeeeeeeee

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    so your trying to educate people on how to identify people who are hacking? Don’t think this has done a great job at that. Seems like a dumb thread and still can’t see the purpose of posting it.
     
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  7. Champloo

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    Thanks for the tips!
     
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  8. notfleb

    notfleb Well-Known Member

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    I'm educating staff on why they're never going to be able to fully control this server without massive changes. While half the server probably already knows the above information or is already closet cheating, the information itself is here more as a reminder than a guide. Not sure how replying to threads with "this is dumb and irrelevant" is productive, seems like a dumb trend and still can't see the purpose of posting it.

    I'll try to put this as clearly as I can:
    CTF can not be properly moderated without a significant increase in staff member count and activity. Cheaters will (and have for a long time) always find their way around the anticheat, and you can only be 100% certain of a player's legitimacy by investigating via screenshare. Targeting of any kind can only be managed by a staff team that offers at least one active member at all times to spectate games and record evidence - not this whole process of "alright we'll get some clips on xday and xday and think on it." These are the ramifications of hosting a very free-lance type gamemode without the proper means for moderating it - it turns into anarchy.
     
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  9. EmperorTrump45

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    I think a video would be better for this tbh
     
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    Autoclicker
    This is manageable to check as Brawl has an anti-macro and CPS checker at least on WarZ, and I believe it is implemented on other servers, but I'm not sure.
    Reach and AntiKB
    This is very hard for an anticheat to detect, as it modifies the pattern of a very specific array of packets that are different for every client. It is also difficult for a moderator to check, as there are copious amounts of factors to consider.

    Outside of a sceenshare protocol, what actual resources would you suggest for better detection of these subtle hacks?
     
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    The only way to even get close would be to have someone spectating a reported player for several hours, monitoring their ping and the ping of every player they fight, while also having extensive knowledge on the mechanics of kb and reach to come to a conclusion - it just isn't feasible. You have to tackle it at the source. You can be sure about someone, but screensharing will always confirm/deny their legitimacy or illegitimacy.
     
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    #freethecow
     
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    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Auto-destruct exists you know
     
  14. Ricade

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    there are so many closet cheaters nowadays that you could label the server as anarchy
     
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    We all hate Hackers, but i think no ones says something that someone hacked the CTF-Plugin and deleted the instakill from Pyro and the whole Staff-Team didnt do anything to fix this in the Plugin. It needs 10mins to fix it.

    i thinkt the whole staff team is a fake and doesnt exist and the hacker hacked the staff team
     
  16. Ricade

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    instakill is one of the many reasons this server sucks
     
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  17. LoL200e

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    You can play on any other server by the way. No ones compels you to play on CTF, if you get instakilled by an Archer you should know you an easily dodge and kill them.
     
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  18. Ricade

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    your statement is the equivalent of when someone complains in an fps game and someone replies "just click their head??"
    so, meaningless. also i dont play the server, for that reason. plus the playerbase is aids, half are closet cheaters, a couple are pedophiles, the rest are just lowlifes.
     
  19. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    instead of ****posting and making statements that are very easy to make, why not tell us what this thread is supposed to be for? no one asked for your opinion on pyro. This coding on how pyro's instakill was removed literally makes no sense. Arguably, pyro is stronger than it was before as well.
     
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  20. Ricade

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    the only reason id ever touch brawl nowadays is to avoid all the carbon copy servers out there that offer generic ass games like factions and skyblock. the playerbase is about the most cancer thing about the network and it would not compel me at all to play the game. I think I have found a grand total of about 7 of the some 500 constant players that dont make me nauseous whenever they open their mouths to speak.
     
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