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Current State of Targeting

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Mnkynoodles, Apr 13, 2020.

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  1. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    i got a compliment nice

    this would be better if we had more staff who actually cared about the problem when ohters are doing it. i personally have alot of bias from staff as i am watched constantly for my past actions. i see it happen all the time but when i start watching/recording they immediately stop as i dont have permissions to spectate, which makes it easier for players to know when theyre being watched. (i also use the /report feature but nothing happens either from what i know)
     
  2. lnformative

    lnformative Well-Known Member

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    Damn, thats as accurate as it gets.

    And really to expand on this, with all the drama that happens in the community, I think that we never really reach a point of maturity.

    Consider CTF a baby, that demands everything, it never goes to sleep, it just whines and cries to its mom because its never happy. No matter what mom does, the baby just keeps crying. 5 years will pass and the baby will still cry, not as much though. The baby learned about ego. It learned that if it has anger, take it out on others within the surrounding area to ease the distressing feelings.
     
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  3. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    if it was a baby we could have aborted it
     
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  4. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    I just saw this comment while rummaging the forums. I find this an interesting perspective, but it doesn't always stay the same. I was like this. I got the absolute **** farmed out of me when I played this game. It was super frustrating and irritating. I was a survival/towny player from a very old community who never once played PVP. I was using a trackpad up until 2014 and didn't even have a mouse. Combine that with ****ty internet and no conceptual understanding of the game, I was straight out of luck. It sounds dumb but I just realized I'm not going to get better if I don't find a way to learn PVP. For me it took videos and just constant practice with consistent dying. Chemist was like dwarf is to me now. Now chemist is my main class and play it probably 90% of the time i'm in game. I built my way up and even then, there are players that are still ****ing annoying and nearly impossible to fight with. Everyone's playstyle is different and the way people play the game will not be the same as someone else. There will always be a skill gap.

    TL;dr: Targeting is the best thing that ever happened to this game - (A high ranking staff member that shall not be mentioned). It's not going to go away, but it should be managed in some cases.
     
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    The skill gap on its own is bad enough, but literally everyone who wants to scum pretty much does the entire time they're on lol. Sweating for stats is one thing, but when you have kids getting 60 kill games from class or ping targeting It's just sad.

    I plan to get functional recording software (current one murders my frames from my pov but shows up fine) to knock out a few scums soon. I think It's so cute when they try to abuse my latency to the max and then get 3 tapped the moment I can actually reach hits lol. I guess I'll upload some pov vids too to make it clear how disgusting my kb is, because on a normal player's screen it looks like I'm just not hitting them from 2 blocks away lol.
     
  6. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    I've fought you before and it's disgusting. Remember when we recorded it a while back? Find that video.

    Edit: And I can sometimes get 40-60 kills even playing objectively. TBH, when you have smaller games but larger kill stats for some players, that's probably a hint to abuse.
     
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  7. Arkenssine

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    For sure, more staff input on stuff like that would be amazing but tricky to implement since most people on the server have lives, sorry to hear about your bias, I’ve only gotten to know the community more this year since I played ages ago so I don’t really see any reasons for you to need reduced privileges like that
    I totally get you man, when I first joined this game I could barely aim my mouse and sprint properly, I got absolutely annoyed when there where these 2 chemists that were kill farming with 40+ streaks outside the base and that event in particular made me get into pvp ages ago just out of pure hatred for those kind of people;
    cheesy behavior like that annoys me all the time and targeting behavior is at the top of my list for crappy behavior it’s annoying, un-fun, and ruins the community
     
  8. minecraftnoob999

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    I try to balance out. If I kill someone more than two times and they peace-block I'll usually leave them alone. Same with chasing people. If you run away from me for more than 5 seconds, I'm not chasing your ass half way across the map. That leaves more than enough people who are generally willing to engage you in any one fight. I feel that balances out the "fairness" when it comes to farming kills. At least from my perspective.
     
  9. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    i just hit people when they cross me and if they chase me ill fight them but if they go ill let them go. used to chase them across the map but realized i ruined fun for them
     
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    I don't have a video of us fighting, but I did find this after forgetting I made it. My upload speeds are so **** that it took 3 hours for me to upload it lol.


    So while this mainly is to explain my situation after losing my accounts, I also feel like this supports my statement that people will take advantage at any possible time. There are people even today (ty Dan) that still try to blatantly target me, and can get away with it because I am physically unable to fight back with my kb being scuffed. The same rule applies for FPS lag, class disadvantage (ninja v sin, sin v pyro, mage v dwarf, etc.), and just flat out skill gaps. I decided to walk away from Minecraft because of this, as with or without JMOD my voice has the same nonexistant power to actually manage **** like this. The staff team is doing well, but they don't realize that they are trying to shoot a bear with spitballs. As I said before, the more freedom you give players, the worse the moral climate becomes; you can only avoid this by significantly increasing the staff team to compensate for the lack of attention it has been paid. Have at least one person spectating at all times, and maybe use a $0 plugin that actually hides spec names.
     
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  11. Paddishly

    Paddishly The Australian

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    My experience is at least x2 this video xD
    Can literally swing at someone, turn away and still hit them while my back is turned to them because the hits have been that delayed. I've also lagged out before and managed to get a healing hit whilst the person was technically 10 blocks away but on my screen was right in front of me. Pretty wacky stuff.
     
  12. minecraftnoob999

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    [​IMG]

    Thats a vibe
     
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  13. LoL200e

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    Everytime i play CTF with pyro i dont get targetted anymore. Its not challenging to play pyro. Everyone ignores you. Every Ninja just think: "Oh a Snack for later". You get killed by a Ninja by 3 crit-Hits, by a Chemist with 5hits.

    As Pyro you just can't do anything, bcus no one is targetting you. You get killed but you can run to the blue flagroom and steal the flag as pyro and they run to your flag wait for you and just needs 3-5 hits to kill you.
     
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