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Current State of CTF (From my perspective)

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Mnkynoodles, May 7, 2020.

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  1. notfleb

    notfleb Well-Known Member

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    I pretty much fit all this criteria, it's just pointless at the moment for me to apply again lol
     
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  2. LeUniCow

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    James wasn't hacking - but yes SS would've cleared that up too.

    Because the staff team don't know enough about detecting hacks as it is. They have "no training". If they were told to SS someone they wouldn't have the slightest clue what to look for and how to get around the self destructs.

    The reason there's drama is because there's always two sides to whether someone is hacking or not. If they get banned, the people who think they aren't hacking make a fuss. If they don't get banned, the people who think they are hacking make a fuss. At the minute it feels like if the community hackusates someone then that will influence the staff team's decision to ban them, but i don't really want to get into bias rn

    SS would absolutely clean up these two sides. If a hacker is SS'd and staff find their client, then that is solid evidence that they are hacking - there cannot be two sides to that. And SS would be much better than what they have now, which is just following players around for months trying to find sus moments and then not understanding enough about each hack to even label it correctly to what it could show.



    Yes, there needs to be a section of the staff team dedicated to hack detection, and they need to be well experienced PvPers (bc imo pvp does make a difference). Unfortunately what we have now is a group of staff members (some of whom are only on the staff team for 'creative input'), who, most of which are nice people (on the surface at least), but don't actually know much about hacked clients/GCs and as a consequence wrong decisions have been made and will continue to be made.
     
  3. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Weird flex

    lol
    As I said I'm happy to be open and honest about this most of the CTF staff team, while decent human beings and good people, are biased or, worse, inept regarding cheaters of this type and something does indeed have to change.
     
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  4. notfleb

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    Not sure how calling myself a non is a flex but ok lol

    By "pointless" I meant the situation is still exactly the same as it has been, and I don't have the patience to maintain a position that currently can only solve the most direct issues, i.e. bhoppers spammers alters etc.
     
  5. EmperorTrump45

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    I remember being told by a mod+ staff member that he was and that there was conclusive evidence of it.

    No they wouldn't because we've never implemented the protocol lol. That's why you have "training" for staff members to figure out how to do it.
     
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  6. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    Brawl hit detection is literal dog. I personally have also heard that brawl has their custom version of 1.7 pvp. It makes sense because hit delay happens. There have been times where my hit registers about 2 seconds after I swing (and it ends up being an 8 block hit). There are also alot of people who think they're the best at the game and when someone aims better or is just better at movement (w tapping), they call out for hacks.

    Experience =/= skill because you can be ****ing around during experience and not improve
     
  7. LeUniCow

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    Trust me the evidence is not good. It's even more laughable than the evidence against me.
     
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    is taht even possible lol?
     
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    This is why I stay out of the community pretty much
     
  10. Slingg

    Slingg OABFAABF

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    So I just went through and tested a few ghost clients IN A SINGLE PLAYER WORLD. And from what I’ve seen, their self destruct doesn't do anything other than disable all the current hacks you have on in game. It doesnt delete the ghost client file in your computer. So screensharing probably would work if the so called cheater isnt using a very high quality Ghost Client.
     
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  11. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Which clients did you test mate
     
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    sling big hacc pls ban
     
  13. Slingg

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    Cant say here because then I’d be advertising. But just know, certain features of popular cracked ghost clients don't work as you think they would.
     
  14. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    lol then you have no understanding of the clients that people actually use, the self destruct features on modern clients are extraordinarily strong and a few go so far as to simulate a DDoS attack on the player using it to allow a very quick restart
     
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  15. Slingg

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    I may be wrong you’re right. But I’m pretty sure I tested most (if not all) of the clients that would be found if you searched up “Ghost client 1.8.9” or “Cracked V*** Client 1.8.9” on youtube. Idk I guess I didnt test the paid clients because I dont really have a need/want to pay $30 to get a better minecraft ego with a client I wont even use. But you’re welcome to go through and test the free clients for yourself to see if some of the pretty complex features of them even work. Judging by your previous replies to the thread it seems that we’re both on the same side here, so no need to go and attack me for doing something I really didn't need to do.
     
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  16. Mnkynoodles

    Mnkynoodles ur mother

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    I guarantee you that most people who are using ghost clients on this server dont even have the expensive ones. Theres no payout in this server compared to like 700$ buycraft on other servers. If staff work together, 90% of them will probably be banned
     
  17. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Sorry, I think I got a tad heated there - my apologies.

    As of right now at this second I have self-destructed a typical PotPvP client which I won't name here for obvious reasons because it's hard to find without the name. The only trace of it I could find after a good 20 minutes of searching was in the strings for Process Hacker, which are A hard to find and can't be fool-proof checked with checksums because of the fact that most people use different Java versions and B a lot of people use mods, meaning each mod would have to have the strings checked first. Anyone who's stupid enough to use a free client is asking to get themselves RAT'd anyways lole

    Another important point is that a lot of today's cheats aren't even in injection clients anymore - classic example being mods such as Armor Status, BetterSprint, Timechanger and the like (even LabyMod) being used to carry cheats into the game.
     
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