Comments on Profile Post by 19Cameron91

That's lovely. Tell me, do you agree that parents constantly threatening children with eternal damnation is child abuse? It can really scar kids.

People these days are considering spanking child abuse. There's a saying, "Spare the rod. Spoil the child." I guess people don't mind a bunch of arrogant brats running around, and we do. We have the millennial generation. Pray to God that generation Z is OK.

Wait, so assault is OK? Awesome.

Wow you have a great knack of taking everything and blowing it way out of proportion. Is it just because it's a biblical quote? If I say "the pen is mightier than the sword" you're gonna say "oh wow time to fight world war 3 with pens"?

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" is basically saying discipline is important for a child to be brought up right.

Also, parents don't consistently threaten children with eternal damnation in a Christian family.

yea, assault is okay.
i would beat the **** out of my kid if he stole something from school or whatever. the correct way to lead is to be feared, not loved nor hated.

No, it's not blowing it out of proportion when Gehenna implies that if you don't hit your kids, they become spoiled. That's assault.

but the thing is, if you dont hit your kids, they do become spoiled

And many kids (particularly Catholics) do get threatened with eternal damnation. I'd know, I'm half-Irish and my dad was raised a Catholic.

Someone's clearly threatened Gehenna with Hell, the "God can't hear you scream" thing is pretty morbid.

Edin, you're being ironic right? :<

Also Matt, one other thing. If you want the Bible to be metaphorical, fine. If you want it to be literal, fine. But as long as Christians pick and choose which bits are literal and which are metaphorical, I'll do the same. Stop your ridiculous double standards.

The true horror of Hell is not the eternal suffering but the eternal separation of God. I believe God forgets you ever existed.

Yeah see he's using words to describe Hell like "horror" and "eternal suffering". Sounds like he's not afraid at all!

By the way Gehenna, Roke warned me for saying you need psychiatric help :(

Can you tell him what you told me, about the dinosaurs? he'll understand

He's not going to care.

no. im serious. if you dont beat your kids, they will be spoiled.

i meant that very literally in the sense that if you dont beat your kids (never beat them) they will be spoiled (wont be afraid to rebel)

my point is you have to beat your kids every once in a while.

I don't know what the mindset on beating kids in New Zealand is, but in singapore it's discipline. I don't mean a beating for every tiny mistake, but for big ones.

Also I'm quite sure you have common sense to tell which parts (or at least lines) are metaphorical and which lines are literal. Some parts are disputable but I don't really cross that line

1. Beatings are silly. You teach your kids not to fight or hit people, then you do it to them yourselves? What kind of message is that.

2. Matt how can you assume that I have the common sense to tell which parts are metaphorical and which are literal, when Christians don't?

Here's a line about beating your kids

"Oh that's just a metaphor for discipline"

Here's a line about talking animals and magic

"Yep, that happened"

1. That's where we contradict I guess. I don't see beatings as completely bad, but they should only be used very rarely in discipline. Contradictions in our moral views.

2. I'm not talking from a biblical standpoint here, I'm talking from an outsider view. You take a look at the context of the lines, you should be able to tell if it's meant to be literal or metaphorical

1. Yeah no point debating this, it's just a personal thing I guess.

2. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Christians can't tell whatsoever, that's why many still believe in creationism :<

But like, take the line about beating your kids. That was written when it was a perfectly acceptable thing, so why should we assume it's metaphorical?

If you look at the beating verse, it's dunked in a place where left and right of it is proverbs (that's literally the name of the book) and sayings that teach people how to lead their lives.

Anyways, just as the bible has many different English translations, that verse does too. If you wanna read it for yourself here's the link: http://biblehub.com/proverbs/13-24.htm

Wait so if it's teaching people how to lead their lives, how are we supposed to know if it's metaphorical or literal advice? It sounds like you think it's easy to tell, but if it's so easy then why do so many Christians believe all the magic BS in the bible?

Just like the English proverbs, they're pretty metaphorical too. It should be the same for biblical proverbs. Anyways, it's quite literal too if you take a look at it :>

I'm assuming by magic you mean the miracles and stuff. Those were written in the context of a story, a continuous thing, not as life advices.

Yeah but people still believe the magic. I don't think the context really changes that. That's messed up.

I'm just using context as one of the arguments why people view some things as literal and others as metaphorical. Why Christians believe the miracles is a whole different debate :v

Alright, I see what you're getting at. I must say, you're much more reasonable to debate than other creationists.

I thought god could do all?

Again, in Hell, you are completely separated from God, so He shouldn't be able to hear you or see you.

But god can do anything.

Yes, but even God has His own guidelines He follows.

God's not going to interfere with people's choices.

And there is one of many flaws found in religion^