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Comments on Profile Post by charlottethegirl

  1. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    Both. There's pain, and there's separation of God.
    Jul 16, 2017
  2. charlottethegirl
    charlottethegirl
    But surely being away from God is pain enough? (I feel a debate coming, oh dear)
    Jul 16, 2017
  3. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    Yes. The eternal separation from God is the main punishment in Hell. You also are tortured there.
    Jul 17, 2017
  4. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    Follow up questions

    a) because I'm already separated from God, does that mean Hell won't be so bad?

    b) who does the torturing. does God know about this, and allow it? wow, so merciful.
    Jul 17, 2017
  5. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    a) You're not truly separated from God. You can call on Him anytime. Also, you're on the same level as every other unsaved sinner, so Hell is not going to be any different for you.
    Jul 17, 2017
  6. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    b) The environment of Hell inflicts the pain all on its own. It's called an inferno for a reason. Although, I did hear a story about an atheist who went to Hell. He was hanging upside-down on a cross, and He saw other people hanging as well, screaming. There were demons stabbing his legs with pitchforks.
    Jul 17, 2017
  7. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    b continued) Suddenly, He saw a Hand reach down and pull Him out. He is now a Christian minister. I guess God had to scare him into believing. Look, don't count on God to save you from Hell when you're already there. Highly unlikely it will happen.
    Jul 17, 2017
  8. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    b continued 2) It's not God's fault if you refuse His salvation.
    Jul 17, 2017
  9. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    But God created Hell, right? I notice you're always trying to shift the blame of horrible things away from God. Sin, hell, you claim these things act on their own, but God created them and he can get rid of them if he wants. To my view that makes him guilty of all these horrible crimes.
    Jul 17, 2017
  10. charlottethegirl
    charlottethegirl
    Also, doesn't God have 3 qualities, one being all loving so if God created everything, why did he create a place where people are hurt?
    Jul 18, 2017
  11. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    God is a loving God, but He is also a just God. Eternity in Hell is just the place a sinner deserves to go. You can't seem to grasp how horrible sin is. Again, it is responsible for everything horrible in the world. Shifting the blame to God is ridiculous. A lot of humans seem to lack the ability to take responsibility for their actions.
    Jul 18, 2017
  12. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    A pharmacist gives you medication and instructions specifically on how many and how often you should take it. You decide to ignore the instructions and take as many as you want, thereby hurting yourself. You can't blame the pharmacist for your recklessness. God is the pharmacist, we're the consumer, the instructions is the Bible, and the medicine is life.
    Jul 18, 2017
  13. MR_naenae_1738
    MR_naenae_1738
    "b) who does the torturing. does God know about this, and allow it? wow, so merciful."

    lol hell in the bible is seperation from god...
    like i dont believe in hell or god but that is just a stupid question
    Jul 18, 2017
  14. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    What do you mean, Edin? Gehenna's saying there's actual torturing in the Bible.

    And Gehenna to use your metaphor, you're leaving a couple things out.
    Jul 18, 2017
  15. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    Namely a) the pharmacist designed the person taking the medication, designed them to be sinful. So how is it their fault if they were made like that.

    b) If they don't take the medication, it's not like they're going to be ill of their own accord. The pharmacist is gonna fking torture them.
    Jul 18, 2017
  16. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    It is SUCH a double standard that you let God take credit for everything except bad stuff.

    If a "miracle" happens then Christians are all over praising God for it, but when it comes to the bad stuff, it's us, not him apparently? Even though he designed us, designed our brains. Either a) he knew we were gonna be sinful from how he designed us or b) he's just bad at designing brains
    Jul 18, 2017
  17. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    And I think it's completely at odds with how everyone lives their lives, at least in the west, to think of sin as this one big horrible thing and all sins are equal. If I told you that I touched myself, and I told you that I killed 7 people, which would horrify you more?
    Jul 18, 2017
  18. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    "I can't seem to grasp how horrible sin is"

    Please tell me exactly why touching myself is a horrible sin. I'm curious. Who am I hurting?
    Jul 18, 2017
  19. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    a) Life is a gift from God, but the hazards of life are not from God. My parable basically says to live responsibly. Good things can come out of life, but if you take too much out of it, you will get hurt.
    Jul 18, 2017
  20. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    OK, so if the hazards of life are not from God, who created them? Come on Gehenna, it says there in the a Bible that God created everything. He is the overarching supreme authority, everything is here because of him. And that includes sin, death, disease, Hell, war, everything. He could take them away if he wanted, and he's the reason they exist.
    Jul 18, 2017
  21. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    First of all, "Touching yourself" isn't the sin, it's the thinking about someone lustfully that's the sin, which is what people do while doing it.
    Jul 18, 2017
  22. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    So God's the thought police. What is wrong with me thinking whatever I want to think? Don't most Americans believe in freedom, Gehenna? If I have to worry about what I'm thinking, that's not freedom. I thought the leftists were supposed to be the cultural marxists
    Jul 18, 2017
  23. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    God didn't create sin. If anything, it seems Satan created sin from his wicked desires, since he is the first sinner. Humans create sin as well. Sin is what happens when we go against God's word.
    Jul 18, 2017
  24. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    GEHENNA. This is completely dishonest and it's really pissing me off.

    You claim God created everything. Yet you claim he didn't create sin? Which is it.

    Also, who created Satan?

    Also please respond to my post below about survivorship bias, if you would, I'm eager to hear what your response is ;)
    Jul 18, 2017
  25. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    God created Satan. Since Satan disobeyed God, it seems angels have free will like us, they're just not as easily tempted to sin.
    Survivorship bias?
    Jul 18, 2017
  26. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    It's the comment directly below, about the reasoning behind us being an accident. Essentially, survivorship bias is a sampling bias when you're looking at evidence. A person might look at this planet and our species and say "wow, the odds of there being such a perfect planet for us are super duper small so it's likely we had a creator"
    Jul 18, 2017
  27. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    But a reasonable person would say "hang on, what about all the times that there WASN'T a perfect planet, so no life could form?"

    Cause the fact is, we can't record instances of all life being wiped out, or life never emerging, because then we wouldn't be here to record it. Ya see what I'm getting at?
    Jul 18, 2017
  28. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    Example from Greece:

    Philosopher: The gods do not love us, they are cruel
    Peasant: How can you say the gods do not love us, I read yesterday about 12 men who were miraculously saved from drowning by the Gods.
    Philosopher: But you do not read about all the men who were not saved, and were drowned.
    Jul 18, 2017
  29. GlobalistCuck
    GlobalistCuck
    Oh and on the thing about Satan and sinning, I disagree, primarily because I don't think free will exists but that's a complex scientific debate and I think I'm not very prepared or willing to have it :)
    Jul 18, 2017
  30. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    On your Greek thing, God has a plan for everyone. When you have fulfilled that plan, your mission is over, and God will let life take its toll on you. God may have multiple plans for you.
    Jul 18, 2017
  31. MR_naenae_1738
    MR_naenae_1738
    satan was an angel turned evil. god created angels i think, so god created satan.

    also, about your comment on the "b.)" thing, hell is seperation from god, so god wouldnt be there to be "merciful" to you...

    ^ i dont believe in any of that, but that's what i *think* is correct? correct me if i'm wrong gehenna
    Jul 20, 2017
  32. 19Cameron91
    19Cameron91
    These people who have died and gone to Heaven and Hell but were brought back to life may have not truly died.
    Jul 20, 2017