There's no need to delete what I say, I'm just stating. I wish I could be in a better place than here. Even the moon, where I could be alone. If you want to understand me, don't just erase my words from mouth or rather keyboard.
People could object that the abortion is covered under the pursuit of happiness part of that. However, in the founder's days, the term "pursuit of happiness" legally refers to property. The founders were adamantly in favor of property rights due to mistreatment by the crown, but that's an entirely different matter altogether...
People who have or are depressed, cannot escape the fact that they are depressed easily, even the people who seek help and are aware. I for one believe, that what accumulates inside of me is either guilt or sadness.
"The whole point of abortion is for mothers who don't want or can't afford a pregnancy." Then @Skulduggery57 back to my old point, why did they have this baby in the first place? Unless it was not in their power to choose like rape, etc.
ANYWAYS, back on topic. As for when either the baby will die through an abortion, or both the mother and baby will die, it's truly hard to say. I'm not a Utilitarian, so I don't view the act of an abortion as morally right even in this case. However, when faced with this decision, an abortion seems to logically be the lesser of the two evils.
Let's move on of this abortion topic, I understand people have their choices. The choices though, makes me wonder though. What if I, you and that stranger's mother thought about getting an abortion, if so we wouldn't argue about this topic if so.
I wish people find their own way of living life, no one should live how I do. Despite me having friend's and family with support or "support". I only trust one person in the world.
But once again, this is an extreme example. Most abortions done are not for either of the two previous examples. Anyways, here's a reason that I personally dislike the notion of abortions even more. This reason is definitely not for everyone, but I hold to it regardless.
I'm almost done m8, lemme finish. I'm not even being argumentative. :V In a nutshell, the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a well known racist. One of her goals was to wipe african americans off the face of the earth.
Of course, this is not what planned parenthood intends today. Regardless, most of the clinics are located in areas where many african americans live. However unintentional this might be, they continue to fulfill the perverted vision of its founder by keeping the population of african americans down via abortions.
I really want to say "ew" LoL at the moment, but I enjoyed the game in the past. But I no longer understand the game's concept. (Sorry for the negative sentence next)
Actually, never mind I will keep that to myself. No one needs to know, no one needs to feel the way I do.
@randomcitizen1 I agree life is precious but I simply do not think it is right to deny a woman the right to choose if they were raped. I think it is very important to take both the rights of the mother and of the unborn child into consideration here and if we are going to do that then the mother should not have to have a child if they were forcibly impregnated.
I do greatly respect your opinion, and I may be gravedigging this discussion a bit (its interesting to talk to people who aren't idiots), but I think the only answer when dealing with a hot potato like abortion is to meet in the middle. By being either completely pro life or pro choice it is impossible to fairly consider the rights of both the unborn child and mother.
It's really simple.
Abortion should be a right, on CERTAIN circumstances. A mother should NOT be permitted for abortion IF she has financial capabilities, a proper environment, and is of legal age to be a guardian. If she is raped, preferably, in my opinion she should just use adoption. But, if it's too emotionally scarring, abortion should be an option.
So, we should turn the cheek from abortion in most cases, however we mustn't forget the rights of the mother. I'm not religious, but I do also believe an unborn child has rights. Abortion debates will NEVER be won or lost. You are either 100% pro-life or 100% pro-choice -- and if not, you will have an opinion like mine, in which abortion has its circumstances.
That being said, it's my opinion and I really don't care (nor have relevance, I'm not a mother or a woman) I think we should really leave it to women to debate, and stay out of this. I'm out
@nimai108 I'm sorry but do you have a hard time understanding simple concepts? THESE MOTHERS DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THESE BABIES. OK? IT WAS NOT IN THE POWER TO NOT HAVE A A BABY AND NOW THEY WANT AN ABORTION. OK? I don't know how you can't understand that.. If there was no such thing as rape and if conception was used by everyone, then we wouldn't need abortions.
Guys the bottom line is that when a mother has an abortion, she's not hurting anyone is she? So why do guys have this idea that it should be illegal? You can talk about human rights but we have far too many humans as it is, and an unborn fetus in early pregnancy isn't much of an alive human being.
Hey anyone want to talk about how terrorists and Syrian refugees are a significant threat to America while over 30,000 people a year die in America due to gun violence?
Roughly 60% of gun violence deaths in America are due to suicides. That is still 10,000 plus people who are killed in non suicide gun violence in America. Now you can either treat that problem by giving people more guns or you can treat the underlying issues of all the violence which include the shameful state of the mental healthcare in America and working class wages.
Do both. Mental health systems are crap, but if a psycho gets a gun and starts shooting it's too late to sit them down on the couch and ask what's wrong. Everyone has the right to defend themselves and not have their second amendment violated. It's insane that one can't have a weapon for self defense in Australia. That's wrong for us and that goes against the spirit of our constitution.
And working class wages have little do do with this, but since you brought it up, if the minimum wage goes up by more than $3, unemployment will skyrocket and all our jobs (metaphorically) will fly out of the country to China.
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