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Let's talk about - Raygun, Minigun and C-Bow

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by onik, Aug 19, 2014.

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  1. Sade_Skirata

    Sade_Skirata Member

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    I dont think it really took two hits. . .if minecraft handles lag similarly to planetside 2, Wrel posted a great video explaining lag copensation versus TTK. Put simply, it didn't kill in two hits, rather due to compensation between his client, ther server, and your client, the server logged the hits but due to lag applied multiple hits making seem as though two hies *again, dont know the dmg on the thing, it may very well be able to two hit people headshotted, I just dont know.*
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?annot...&feature=iv&src_vid=f8THdeZMprk&v=n3fUok2AoaU
     
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  2. onik

    onik Well-Known Member

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    I know about the lag and I know that it wasn't 2 shots. But it's all about the time. I don't have even a chance to react! I respawn and BOOM dead.
    EDIT: PS2 is not Minecraft. Minecraft even has a dmg per tick cap, so you can only damage an entity once every tick.
     
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  3. Sade_Skirata

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    the isolater and python one shot *python to head*. . .just sayin, kinda bad comparison. The spawn kill thing is the same with any high rof like smgs or leman, even shotguns can do it. . .
    Somethin tells me were just gonna have to agree to disagree on this
    Edit: the principle of the "ghosts" still plays in. I got hackused once for killing someone "behind me" when on my screen they was no one behind me, only in front, who I shot.
     
  4. onik

    onik Well-Known Member

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    I can make the same video but I would use any other gun and it would be the same result. Yes, the python and Iso are overpowered in some ways, but the minigun is more gamebreaking because of this damage, firerate and "infite ammo".

    Every FFA is won using the minigun.
     
  5. Sade_Skirata

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    Youve made your stance clear, I've made mine clear, last post for me so it doesnt start flaming, but I win alot with leman+deagle for the exact same reason as mini. . .when you die you get all the ammo back to spam away again. on reload i just use deagle. works well enough for me.
     
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  6. onik

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    Yeah, just tested that. I went much better again the miniguns, but this means that snipers in FFA are dead :frowning:
     
  7. Sade_Skirata

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    The right weapon for the right map and mode :wink:
    no one brings shotguns to wildwest *most* and in FFA where everything is hectic, snipers dont have the luxury normal modes offer. They can't cover all angles fast enough while autos/shotties *debatable, they are mostly UP moddel aside* can.
     
  8. legodudex10

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    Nice thread, I really agree.
     
  9. Flaming_Alpaca

    Flaming_Alpaca Well-Known Member

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    Try and tell this to server 1 where there is basically 35 cbow/ray gun/mini gun users all the time.
     
  10. iMacro

    iMacro An Essential Meme Maker (^:

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    I believe that jugg is currently bugged out for some reason, I haven't been on for awhile so I don't know if there was an update about it.
     
  11. SuperEpps22556

    SuperEpps22556 Well-Known Member

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    I think the minigun needs a slight nerf in damage, it already sprays out so much ammo/second. Cross bow explosion timer should be a little bit longer to give someone a chance.

    Jugg hasnt been working for me, neither has flak jacket. I was wondering why i took so much damage.
     
  12. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    We all know that once Putty stops being stubborn and adds back the recoil, then you'll see either a sudden decrease in the amount of Miniguns, or the number of Minigun users will remain the same, but it'll be harder for them to kill you and win.
     
  13. Wolfasa

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    I just have to disagree. I've never donated and I'm level 60, and doing just fine and having tons of fun. I do indeed have mini but I almost never use it, and in fact I did better in FFA using Skullcrusher. Most mini campers are pretty easy to deal with with a quick Iso/Python shot, and frankly easier than one with a sniper or Model. In my opinion, most prestige and some non-prestige guns can easily handle donor weapons. (Note, this does not mean headlong rushing them and expecting to beat them, I mean like actually thinking it through, and then killing them is actually quite easy).

    And keep in mind that without donations McBrawl wouldn't be here. What I did was man up, think strategically, and I was inspired to level up more so I could deal with them easier. It's frankly nothing I bother to think about anymore because it's just mediocre. And keep in mind it's easier to camp with Skully or Iso than it is Cbow.

    **And don't report this post just because I disagree with you....

    I gotta disagree with this as well.... I don't have a single perk and Im going along just fine. And they won't do that, they'll be available for credits.

    I went 8-2 on Countdown FFA because I forgot to switch so I just kept out of the middle of the map. Snipers aren't that bad as long as you use them strategically.
     
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  14. onik

    onik Well-Known Member

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    It's great that you have fun ;D
    What ping do you have? I think that's my problem.
    And if you are really so good in FFA, can you please post a screenshot of winning FFA with any sniper on a server with 35+ players?
    Thinking strategicaly doesn't work for me, because they kill me before I can even shoot or turn around.
    Who does that?
    It's your personal opinion and I can't say anything in favor or against it, but I can say that this doesn't work for me.
     
  15. Wolfasa

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    My ping is usually 70-120. My fps with Optifine is around 35.

    I'll try... I usually don't like playing FFA cause FFA and gungame make me lag like heck. All the spawning things going off at once.

    Well I don't just go running around every corner of the map expecting nobody to be there. It's not like COD where you can wait till they shoot and then no scope them with an auto.
     
  16. Sade_Skirata

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    My ping is usually around 60 and my fps with Optifine is around 100 ^_^
    My strategy for FFA with sniper *based on the very few times I have done so* is to spam MSR *though I would now use iso or dissa, it was what I had when I did it* at groups and go headshots, move and constantly change my shooting line even if there are people where I am aiming to prevent flanks *seriously, I get called alot for "hacking/aimbotting" for "knowing someone is there". . .Planetside 2 taught me to check my sides and six constantly and y'know what? It helps in this too. . .checking every corner, checking your flanks, take the initiative in fights and force opponents to move how you want them to, it all works (most of the time XD)*
     
  17. iMacro

    iMacro An Essential Meme Maker (^:

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    On one map where... Oh it's called the void,
    Minigun in one of the hallways is very op especially with scavenger.
     
  18. RezIsStupid

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    Minigun, autos and SMGs are pretty unerpowerd without scav, altough not in ffa except minigun
     
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