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Discussion in 'Survival Games w/ Guns' started by chickenputty, Feb 15, 2015.

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  1. Phanta

    Phanta Well-Known Member

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    My only thoughts on the gun system:
    TIERS = BAD
    BALANCE = GOOD
    I would prefer if winning depended more on skill and less on RNG.
     
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  2. iMacro

    iMacro An Essential Meme Maker (^:

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    Should some guns be kit specific?
    As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    No, most of the guns in kits are only Tier 1 so if you started with an M9, it's not going to do much. Until you find another gun plus if you can't get tier 1 but tier 2-4 instantly it would be quite overpowered. (Finding Dragunovs and Barrets all the time.)

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    FAMAS, it can kill a 2/4 iron or full iron in about four or seven shots to the head or some cases less, (@Pikmin_Hunter). The Minigun is quite overpowered is well, I count it as a LMG class weapon cause ammo. In my opinion it needs either a large damage nerf because of the fire rate or remove it altogether. P90 is kind of overpowered because it's basically the old WarZ P90 which could take out a full diamond in about 7-12 shots.

    What guns are trash right now?
    M9, it's damage is too less in my opinion. If you battled a 2/4 iron with it or even another full leather your chances are dead or just kill them. The Glock is almost the same as M9 but hmm maybe a slight fire rate buff? It's almost similar to me unless I combo them with the M9.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    I would want more sniper type weapons, I can think of two snipers which are about the same or even more powerful then the barret. (Don't make to overpowered though) The AS-50 and the KSVK 12.7 (50-52 caliber weapon).

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    KSVK, it's basically a barret with a slightly and I mean slightly bigger cartridge then the barret. Being one of the largest cartridges same as many other Chinese 12.7 x 108mm it can be a tier V sniper. Considering I noticed the barret cannot really one shot unless in dead. (I've tanked a barret shot in 2/4s).

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive? I think there should be more gun selections, wait does this mean by kits?
     
  3. chickenputty

    chickenputty License & registration?

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    I honestly have no idea how you can balance 28 Minecraft guns. Gun firerate is based on ticks, going from 2 tick delay to 3 tick delay makes the difference between a rifle and a SMG.

    You could have one gun shoot slow and do high damage and one shoot fast and do a smaller amount of damage.
    If you can hit all of your shots, the fast shooting one is better because of the knockback.

    I just don't see it working out.
     
  4. Algelier

    Algelier Former Staff Member.

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    What guns are overpowered right now? I think the mini. You can check this thread putty.

    What guns are trash right now? I think you should up the m9 or some pistols.

    What gun type would you like to see more of? None, it's very diverse

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see? Like some Mc-war/Mcwarz guns. At you to see

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive? It's very diverse. Only the donors guns should be paid with real money or credits. Or like some tokens.
     
  5. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.

    Not anything in the current kits. This might make an interesting future addition, but right now, there aren't enough kits to make this viable. Also, I like the variety that the amount of find-able guns provides.

    What guns are overpowered right now?

    The Minigun. It's the best gun in the game and there is usually six players running around with one in their inventory per map. Extremely OP damage. Needs either more rarity and less damage or a delay before shooting to get up to speed.

    The MG4. Very OP for it's tier. It needs a clip size reduction to 50 or less and slightly less accuracy.

    The SAW. Essentially a tier IV or better. I see almost no difference between this gun and the M240 other than the SAW seems to have better accuracy than it. Needs a clip size reduction to 50 or less, a lot less accuracy, and either a decrease in fire-rate or damage. This thing rekts all.

    The M2OP4Everyone. The only other tier IX in the game along with the SAW. I can't even stress how OP this gun is. I suppose since it's a tier IV, it's clip shouldn't be nerfed too horribly. 60-65 sounds a little bit more reasonable. It's damage is still too high to be fair combined with it's fire-rate. It needs slightly less accuracy and less damage.

    What guns are trash right now?

    The Crossbow. The worst thing in the game. I won't even call it a gun, because it isn't. It's a bow, and I would take the m9 over it any day. The sad part is that hunter is the most expensive non-donor kit. This needs an enormous buff. Make headshots a one-shot to full leather or something. No, it's not that OP. 1. It's hard to headshot with a bow when your enemies have guns. 2. You can hardly move while pulling it back. 3. It's rate of fire is awful.

    Glock 17. It's horrible for a Tier II. Combine horrible accuracy with a lackluster rate of fire, and what do you get? The Glock 17. It's damage is good, it's just next to unusable due to it's lack of accuracy. That's what needs a buff in my opinion.

    RPG-7V2. It's rare. It's ammo takes up too much space. It's explosion range is horribly small. It's damage is only good on a direct hit, and even that is lacking. It's splash damage isn't devastating enough for an RPG, and it's rate of fire is terrible. Everything about this gun is bad. It needs some good. I would make a direct hit one-shot a full iron, buff it's splash damage, and greatly increase it's explosion range. That should make it good.

    SPAS-12. It's worse than the m9. It does slightly more damage than it if all the bullets connect, and it has no range. It needs a damage buff to be balanced.


    What gun type would you like to see more of?


    I would actually prefer than more Tiers were not added. I do not want Tier Vs. That would be too OP. Instead, different kinds of guns would be good. More rare special weapons would definitely be a plus as well. Maybe steal some special weapons like the Typhoid from War. :V

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?

    I've always thought that mounted guns would be cool. A grenade launcher would be cool if grenades weren't so pitifully weak. Dual wielding pistols would be cool. A three round burst pistol would also be cool. (Maybe as a special gun?)

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?

    It's diverse, but more variety would definitely be welcome.​
     
  6. Zaid

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    I know that but how come i always one shot people with drugonav, and i have to combo with the barret,which makes no sense
     
  7. Phanta

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    You have to headshot with the Dragunov to OSOK.
     
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  8. Zaid

    Zaid Well-Known Member

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    Oh and I would love to have credits do something. Like you can buy extra perks before the game starts that would be interesting.

    IK I'm saying the barret is bad because I headshot and the players dont get oneshot.
     
  9. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    I would like to see bones added, just like in WarZ (with an actual use this time...). You get crippled once you fall from high places and need bones to fix yourself. This would add more of a survival kind of theme. I would also like if there were wild animals so you don't only need to defend yourself from players, but also animals. You can get meat/food from the animals if you are out of food. Another idea is a cool effect that you can buy from the in-game store or have as a donator is a parachute effect. It wood look cool for someone falling out of the sky in particles. Also maybe a winning effect of like fireworks that will be the same (bought in-game or donator). These are all of my ideas!
     
  10. soccerstars

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    M9, way to many of them from the people with no class.
    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Minigun, MG4 ( too much damage ), Uzi ( too much damage ), SAW ( Fire rate is really fast ), Dragunov.
    What guns are trash right now?
    Crossbow, M9.
    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    MG4, SAW, M240, UMP45.
    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    Another type of rocket launcher.
    Explosive tip crossbow ( instead of the current one )
    Not a gun, but I actually want to see C4, have fun trapping people with it and such.
     
  11. TheSinisterOne

    TheSinisterOne Goodbye

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    Note: Even though I don't play fpshg that much I have played enough games to understand the weapons.

    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.

    No as in it is not a necessity. Most of the kit guns aren't even that great so it wouldn't impact the fpshg community.

    What guns are overpowered right now?

    I would have to strongly say the Minigun.

    What guns are trash right now?

    Definitely the c-bow, although it would be cool if it had a explosive tip attached to it like Mc-War.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?

    Special weapons like grenade launchers, ballistic knifes, etc.

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?

    I would have to strongly promote the Ballistic Knife, it is much more unique just than any other random sniper rifle or automatic rifle. Basically it would be a Knife (Golden Sword, etc) that would shoot an arrow. This would be a special weapon.

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?

    I would say the selection is not that diverse. Although I think that adding special weapons like above would really make it diverse.
     
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