WarZ Practice Server Policy

You realise if halos story was true hes admitting to playing for multiple days while breaking an obviously in place rule right? If he was to do the proper thing he would have stopped playing on the server until he was demoted. He should have informed Staff of what was going on instead of keeping it hidden. Why hide something like that if youve got nothing to hide? It just seems super sketchy

 

He didn't hide anything. No one questioned him. Raven told him to get the rank removed, and he tried. Brawl doesn't own them. If he wants to play on a server, he's allowed to. Just because an admin on that server wasn't on and he couldn't get his rank removed, doesn't mean he needs to get punished on Brawl. I'll admit, he could've made a bit more of an attempt to let the Higher Ranks know, but he didn't find it necessary because he knew he would eventually get it removed, the next time the Owner, who is Licio, got on. He gets it removed, then he had to get off for the day. When he saw Licio get on, he told him to remove the rank, which Licio did. Then, Halo had to get off for the day, hence why he disconnected off TS. Later that day, when he got back on, he didn't have his MOD rank on Brawl. Sorry some people have better things to do than sit on a computer all day. He has a life aside from Minecraft, I don't think many SMOD+ realize that. The only reason he was still even on his computer was to get that rank removed, because he was so determined to. He finally gets it removed, after days of asking, and then he gets demoted. Seems fair right?

 

https://www.brawl.com/threads/38319/#post-499444 Please look at Roke's comment.
I would believe him instead of you.

 

I see this whole thing as a big misunderstanding. I've read both sides of the story and it doesn't seem like anyone is lying here, both stories match up fine. We just have two sides of the same story. But of course, everyone had to take sides and bicker about it. Most of the admins couldn't care less about Halo_'s side of the story, and many of those defending Halo_ aren't trying to see it the other way either. Now one of Brawl's finest moderators has been demoted and tempbanned, and here we all are arguing rabbit or duck. Nice work everyone, nice work.

 

Hes allowed to play on any server sure, no ones stopping him from doing that. Its just a rule that you can't be a mod on servers that have copyrighted material. He was still playing on it for around three days like he said without informing anyone about what was going on. All he would have to do is talk to literally any staff member and tell them what he was doing to get rid of his rank on the server and his credibility would be much higher. I highly doubt he would have to leave the second mods start questioning him about things, that just seems too convenient.

 

Please leave what Roke said.. Halo got off TeamSpeak and Minecraft. He had to get off, the only reason he stayed on was to get his rank removed so he could avoid this. When he got it removed, he got off of his computer. He literally didn't avoid anything. He got off his computer, and later got back on and was demoted. I don't understand where you're going with this. Ask them if they noticed how Halo didn't get back on Brawl till later that night. Sorry Halo enjoyed playing on a server, and that it was the owner and admins fault he couldn't get it removed.

I agree with you on that, he should've told them that he couldn't get it removed because the owner wasn't on. That's what got him demoted. But I don't see the problem, since Halo got his rank removed. And then got off his computer, than later got demoted, when he wasn't even on.

 

I understand. If anything, the only problem I have is how he is acting, how much of a deal this has become, and the complications that have come between the two different stories.
I don't really know where I'm going either, don't worry bahahahaha

 

At that point they probably were already in the process of demoting him and in their eyes he broke a clearly defined rule still. You dont get unbanned for hacking just because you uninstalled the hack client.

 

I bet if Signatured still owned HolyZ they wouldn't do anything. Seriously, you expect a person to be on every single second. Oh sure, he logged off right when Raven wanted to talk about it to him. It isn't fair to demote somebody since they weren't on right then. I mean he could have been mad since he just lost mod on another server, that can't be accounted for his demotion. People have lives too.

Shame on you staff. Shame on you. He was one of the best mods, if not the best.
Your loss.

 

This is why I quit Brawl. I get to watch it crumble. Why would you ever fire Halo? He was like, top 3 mod quality.

 

Unfortunately, I wasn't here to see if Halo was as great as you describe him, but I did chat with someone, gathering information. What I've gathered has led me to this this conclusion. He blatantly ignored rules and then trying to act innocent.

 

Can't we all agree to disagree? It seems that you guys are repeating the same story over and over again but with a minor twist on the logging off part, both sides didn't handle this situation adequately, I think we can all agree with this, now get back on the servers and play instead of argueing over a past subject, as sad it is, the situation is over with, which means there should be no reason to argue over this because he has already been demoted sadly enough. I think the correct course of action would be to respect halos legacy as a moderator here on brawl by not argueing and squabbling over this.

 

Sorry this post is kind of long, but it took me a while and is hopefully worth reading.

Ok, so I've read most of the stuff regarding this issue, and here is what I've seen so far:

Halo's side - Recently a rule was made that WarZ mods were unable to moderate a server that is a copy of Brawl. I was then asked by Raven_ to have my rank removed on M4. The same day, I asked the owner to demote me on M4 as to not infringe on this new rule, but he did not do so. After this, no M4 staff members logged on for 3 days, making it so that I could not be demoted. Finally, the owner came on and removed my rank. I was not contacted by any staff members to discuss the issue, even though they say they tried, and even though my rank had been removed on M4, it was also removed on Brawl.

Staff side: A new rule was made so that staff members could not be staff of a server that is a copy of Brawl. Halo was in violation of this rule, so he was told to resign from his moderator position on M4. He was given three days in which he continued to play on the server but was not demoted. Finally he got demoted, but logged off of TS before we were able to discuss it with us. We thought he was trying to hide something, so we demoted him.

Flaws I see with the staff side:

1. Halo was never given a chance to explain himself after he was demoted on M4 but before he was demoted on Brawl. Even if he logged off of TS, the staff could have at least given him a day to talk about what happened before demoting him.

2. Some people think that Halo is lying about trying to be demoted, others think he is telling the truth. Yet while everyone was busy sticking to opinions, no one bothered to look for the factual evidence and confirm Halo's side of the story with the owner of the server. Don't you think we could ask people besides Halo and see if he was actually trying his best to be demoted? If they can confirm that the owner had not seen Halo for 3 days, then we know there was nothing Halo could do because no one was on the demote him.

Flaws with Halo's side.

1. Even if no one was on to demote Halo, he didn't have to continue playing on the server. He could have logged off until he was demoted.

2. Halo failed to contact the admins after being demoted on M4 (although this could have been just bad timing)

Honestly I think that the argument could go either way, but personally I think that Halo deserved to atleast be given the benefit of the doubt considering he was one of the best and most active staff members of all time.

I'm sorry @Halo_ .

 

Before this gets any more circle-jerky or out of hand, I'd like to highlight the fact that this is not an issue which requires any further discussion.

It was a relatively straight forward decision by the upper staff (including myself) to demote Halo. Any concerns with that decision are not only misguided, but are also developed with complete ignorance to the entire situation. Therefore, these concerns have no place here on the Brawl forums.

In the mean time, let's stop these nonsensical discussions and focus on things that really matter.