What is your server preference?

This doesn't apply anymore. There is a whole new market here. Don't you find it weird that the kitpvp with soup is really popular in this minigame server?

 

My own personal preferences aside, here are the pros for each gamemode.

Arguments for Soup:

• MCPVP veterans generally prefer it since it's more skill based
• There's a whole load of Soupers from KitBrawl who will want to try it

Arguments for No-Soup:

• New players generally prefer it since there's less of a skill gap
• Higher casual player retention rates and therefore more revenue for Brawl

The best thing for Brawl as a server network is No-Soup. I'd also like to reiterate that the poll is moot since casual players who will prefer No-Soup are much less likely to have a forum account.

 

As was Kitpvp on Mcpvp, i don't get your point?

 

I'm for soup servers only ... In my opinion , only soup servers should be incorporated as we all know that HG had the most people on was in 2012-2013 when there were ONLY soup servers. HG's prime was when there was only soup... No soup was brought in for 'new players' as they would not know how to soup and lose easily . No soup is not a solution to these people IMO . First and foremost , we all were new players as well . But we started to get used to it and even invented new ways of pvping such as hotkeying and quickdropping. These are what made HG fun for me. Secondly, in order to get this new players to stay on , they should simply go to kitpvp or any soup pvp server to work on their skills like most of us did to win HG. Lastly, if they would not like to participate in training and honing up their skills, I suggest that they could tower or trap like most of us did in the beginning. Slowly but surely, their skills would improve and such towers and traps would be a challenge to us all instead of just pvping through the entire HG. Such towers and traps make the game even more interesting and more exciting for me. I only played no soup hg as there was no one on soup HG since no soup was made to default HG and most people joined it instead of soup. I do not really mind no soup hg but tbh it was not as successful as soup HG . Yes I enjoy it to a certain degree and certainly agree that it is fun but I just find soup HG more of a challenge in which you do not lose or die in the game as quickly. I do not have strong objections if soup and no soup is in the servers but I am more of a soup HG fan. I really had fun with the 120 people in the game and games could last for 60mins till the pit and the experience was just thrilling and exhilarating . I did not enjoy the nosoup hg as much but would not turn away from it immediately. I will support any decision made but no soup HG servers only please. I am willing to embrace a no soup and soup hg if must but would mostly prefer if all servers were soup. Thank you

 

I'd say implement the winner and if it is one of the first two options, do another poll after two months to see if there is still interest in the other gamemode.

 

kitpvp was made of veterans but this kitpvp is made of both a few mcpvpers but mostly noobs. the fact that alot of noobs are playing a soup server negates what you said previously.

 

Actually while soup was there like new players now nearly all of the new players didnt know about soup. Simply look up past hg gameplays or BBh's old kit videos like Thor and you will be surprised.

Difference is its not 10k new players like it was before.... Presently its a few newbies thrust into an already developed souping environment. Its like thrusting a level 1 league player into Diamond and saying go free and prosper, They would continually lose and be confused until they ragequitted. Thats what soup is currently like for newbies.

Actually thats completely false, nearly all of us including myself learnt soup and progressed through time as skills were developed. Everyone was learning at the same pace through video's like Rino's, BBh's Etc. Meaning they could all still play hg and learn instead of grinding skills on kitpvp which new players aren't interested in doing now. New players join to play Hg not to go "Oh i dont know how to play this let me go play Kitpvp until im good enough" While it sounds simple it doesn't work that way they arent interested.

Towering and trapping no longer works effectively with a huge decrease in the playercount and trapping videos etc after the focus of updates was geared towards nerfing traps and the addition of anti trap kits.

A variety of new kits to negate traps, nerfs to kits like endermage and skills that were developed such as always carrying an axe destroyed the trapping community and made traps inefficient. In addition to this several traps are just impossible to carry out with the level of souping that people have. A perfect example of this would be a random video that i looked up

I could go on forever about the problems that have arrised over time, its nothing to do with soup itself its the skill level of souping that's gone way out of proportion which has broken key features and made it a harsh environment for players who cant soup to an elite degree.

That still makes no sense, the skill gap is the problem not soup itself, anybody can hotkey with practice but refiling mid fight is another story. This kitpvp only has a hotbar of soup and Mcpvpers are dominating on that server which truly shows the skill level difference. In addition to this i wouldn't call the brawlers playing on there "noobs"

 

Don't you think a noob that gets 2 kills finds it fun with a hotbar won't eventually get more soups and try to refill etc?

 

Cara, só participa da seita. A seita que dói menos. Já era. Tão acabando nossa sopitchas. Chorei

 

lesk bora lutar ate o final pelas nossas sopinhas

 

That actually complements what I said lol. That just means even more that noobs don't mind soup.

 

Just give people options. 1 server for no-soup, 1 server for soup, and 1 server for an alternation between the two.

Also, I would like a "description" of the servers telling what you can expect on there. For example, on the soup server the description could be: "A truly challenging game-mode in which players heal themselves using mushroom soup." The no-soup description could explain the basics of HG.

 

If players want no-soup hg then go play sg

 

That is like saying go play COD of you don't like the changes to battlefield.

 

but can we break blocks in SG? No, we can only find chests and kill people. We cannot mine for iron.

 

Theres tons of stuff similar to Nosoup - UHC, for one. Nosoup was essentially a mix between UHC and Survival Games. SoupHG was an Original, and well made gamemode, and honestly, now-adays 75% of people know how to soup to an extent, and at least 85% know how to swing a sword and combo and stuff. The noobs leftover will probably learn pretty quick. I'm personally all in favor of soup.

Another interesting fact, the creation of nosoup was when I truly started to realize that McPvP was going to die.

 

okay. However, u cannot just look at it at your point of view. I mean they seriously should learn to soup... That's how we all started and that's why there are professional soupers . You have to learn a skill if you want to play... I don't really see the difference between no soup HG and survival games besides the kits . I mean they even added CHESTS into the no soup HG ... THAT just made it just like survival games only fewer chests. I mean brawl doesn't need a copy of a game that has only little difference u know. But yes 1 portal no soup and 1 portal soup is fine i guess but making in alternating 15 minutes is a better choice so there will be only 1 server... That was what made mcpvp HG kinda not work out. I mean they had 1 server with soup and 1 server with no soup and there were fewer players in both servers so little that it took like 30 min just to get 10 people in a game . Alternate is fine and all but definitely not just nosoup and soup . That was one reason why there were fewer people such to an extent that they would just leave the server as it took such a long time to start

Completely agree

NO LOL... You're getting the wrong idea .... "That's why more people like no-soup" That statement is incorrect if we compare in numbers , HG soup had 120 players full game. The most you can get out of no-soup is only 40 players max . Also it is wrong , it had more people because it was the default server . BBH had to make it the default so more people would join . It was really hilarious how no-soup had no one on and they had to make it default. After doing so , more people started to join because MAINLY it became default . You might counter that people did not know about no-soup and started to like it . "no-soup will be enjoyed by HUNDREDS" No just no. Then i would suggest they just play survival games. They only differ in small ways and would be liked by those no-soup players then.

Well according to that statement , soup pvpers wouldn't even exist then LOL. U say that once they die they will quit soup... Then why didn't we quit soup. The fact that there are soup pvpers out there just shows that that point is invalid. No they will not , they would just train up and learn how to soup. Trust me it would only take about a week or two the grasp it . Thats how we all started and made the community have over 120 players in hg's prime.

Would you not agree that we were all "newbies" when we first joined ? But as i said we did not rage quit because we simply went to get better ... There is a beginning for everything if those newbies do not like soup then don't play it. Many people started liking it and started training to get good.

As you said .... They would just have to learn soup and progress through time as skills are developed for them lol? Same pace? No I don't think so . Don't tell me the entire community started exactly at the same time... Nope u might have started in 2011 but i only started in 2012... Some started a few months later or earlier . However , we all still played hg and learnt thru the vids like what they can do now. If they are not interested then leave then. If everyone was like that we would have 0 players alr. That is not the case. We all started new but again progressed through time ... exactly what they need to do like what we went through ... There is no shortcut except watching pvp videos like how most of us did .

With such a mentality of yours nothing will be invented then. That is as good as giving up on traps . That is the wrong way of thinking . At first everyone did not know about traps, then there were influential trappers such as pvp traps and many more channels focussing on HG traps. The sky is the limit ... Just because most traps can be escaped doesn't mean we can't make new ones. The towering possibility is still not ruled out... Players can and will have fun as a team towering with stomper endermage cultivator etc. The community will always think of new ideas and fun traps for players to do . As soon as a trap is escapable , a new one will be produced . Yes that trap is escaped but how about others such as the launcher one, still unescapable till today or maybe its escapable idk . But the point is that yes there are anti trap kits but people would still go pvp advantage kits such as viper snail and even achilles for a pvp advantage. That is where the trappers will do their work and get rid of good pvpers which is also fun and pvpers having a thrill of trying for loopholes to escape the trap or team mates coming to the rescue . Yes the lack of people is really a problem but let us get more people and the momentum going and more people such as pvptraps will be present . Hey, that's how HG started at first as well xD

There will be problems no matter what age of time and that is where we come in to solve the problems. No problem cannot be solved . Broken key features? Don't mind me but would you mind elaborating on this Can't soup to an elite degree... Yes I agree on that :/ but i guess there are solving to that such as teams , kits , traps , towers , mini feasts ... The list goes on but we just have to think a way to counter these people which makes the experience very fun. I enjoy these types of discussion to see what others think . Cheers

 

I haven't read the mass of comments here, but this is my two cents:

The only problem I had with No Soup HG (as a Soup HG player) was that it was prioritized to such an extent that Soup HG was pushed to a corner with fewer incoming players.

So, what I would like to see is two equally perspicuous portals, placed side-by-side, to both of the HG variants but with clear distinction that one is for more experienced players and the other with a sign adhered saying "RECOMMENDED."

That way, we can still get players coming into Soup HG who know they have an option if they don't like soup.

 

But we didnt die because of nosoup. Nosoup came because we were dieing.

I know you love soup, we all do. But we got to agree that No Soup would bring a lot of more players to the server. Although, Brawl have to respect us, soupers, and keep both servers.