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  1. earthman888

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    This is a tier list that I have currently made based on my experiences with each class after years of playing ctf. However, take note that this tier list is not really to show which classes are the best. It is to show which classes I think need to be buffed or nerfed in order for the game to be more balanced. I also hope that the people who respond to this thread will also help in shaping the tier list. Due to the fact that the game is currently in beta I think that this is a good time to make balancing a priority in the game. Here we go:

    There are 5 tiers. S,A,B,C, and D. Note even if a character is in C tier that doesn't mean they are bad. They just have flaws that can be corrected if they are played well enough. D tier means the class really needs a buff.

    S Tier

    • Archer- Archer's sniping gimmick is the thing that lands it in S tier. It's ridiculous. If you hit an opponent with an arrow from 25 blocks away, (I think that is the approximate number of blocks) it's an instant kill. This is insanely powerful especially if you are great at using a bow as you will continuously rack up kills from a safe distance. With tons of arrows and punch 2 on your bow you can even fair well against people from less than that 25 block radius. Only having chain armor and a stone sword for close combat is a problem, but if you are good enough you should be able to keep your opponents at bay. Counters: Archer, Ninja, Assassin,elf
    • Mage- Mage does not die. It's healing spell allows it to take a beating and then just heal it off. Since the spell will be ready to use again after a short cool-down, you will most likely be able to stay on the field for a long time. With the damage spell that does a good chunk of damage to anything, and a useful fire spell, the mage can easily wear opponents down quickly. On defense the mage can use lightning to knock people back or freeze them in order to get away or heal. With all those spells mage is easily one of the most powerful classes in the game. In fact it may be a bit too strong. Counters: Assassin, Pyro
    • Medic- Medic has a lot to offer. It can heal it's friends and give them items. It can hit people with it's throw-able cobwebs it can regenerate health. It is immune to fire and is even immune to drowning. Plus six steaks allows it to easily heal off any damage. with all of this to offer it would be a wonder if it got placed any lower. Counters: Heavy
    • Chemist- So many potions. The chemist has potions for any occasion. It can easily heal up whenever it is hurt and it immune to fire damage when using it's fire resistance potions. It's strength plus speed combination also make it a leading offensive threat. Damage and poison potions also are able to help weaken bulkier classes. It even has an unbelievable amount of health recovery which makes it almost impossible to take down. Although it doesn't really have anything against projectile users. With all these tools in hand the chemist can be a real pain for your opponents. Counters: Archer, Mage, heavy
    A Tier
    • Soldier- The soldier can climb up walls and is immune to the dreaded fall damage. It is a good all around class. A good number of healing steaks can keep it going on the battle field for quiet a bit. Plus it's wall climbing ability lets it easily steal flags from it's opponents. It's just a great class. Counters: Heavy, pyro
    • Pyro- The pyro loves fire. It can light people on fire with it's bow. In fact it can light a whole group of people on fire with it's bow. It can them insta-kill them with it's axe. 5 steaks lets it live long enough on the field and it has flint and steel for close combat. Of course it has the flaws in which medic which is immune to it's insta-kill. Other pyros are also immune to the insta-kill. Plus weak armor and limited arrows are a thing. Regardless if you play smart you can easily be the leading defender on your team or be a terrifying offensive presence. Counters: Medic, Elf
    B Tier-
    • Engineer- The engineer can easily overpower foes with it's amazing turrets that kill people even when they are invisable. Teleporters also make it easy to help your team get to the flag. Regenerators can also help out your team immensely by healing them. With all these tools the engineer is a huge defensive threat. However the engineer is also very prone to being sniped and once it is killed all your equipment goes away, including the teleporters that are extremely helpful to your team. Plus each item can easily be destroyed. Regardless your should always be careful about the engineer. Counters: Archer, Engineer,
    • Heavy- Heavy is pretty basic. It's good all around. Their really is nothing more that can be said about it. It's just a good default class that everyone can use. Counters: Chemist, assassin, pyro
    • Ninja- The ninja is about stealth and power. It can destroy people with it's powerful sword then become invisible in order to steal the flag. Flash grenades also make it hard for the opponent to fight back. However with lackluster defense and no real way to recover health (besides shifting with your sword equipped which makes you a sitting duck) you must be careful when using this offensive threat. Counters: Engineer, assassin, heavy
    • Dwarf- Dwarf is slow. It has to shift all the time. It has only three steaks and you can only really use it to camp. However, camping is something that these guys do best. When shifting they can easily gain tons of levels in order to boost their sword's power. They can easily defend the flag with their ultra-powerful swords. Plus not losing all your levels when you die is a plus. Counters: Assassin, Pyro, Mage, Archer
    C Tier
    • Elf- Elf is pretty unique. It can put out fire, it can hover, and it can cause the earth to crash on your foes. It also regenerates arrows unlike other classes. However although it has 5 steaks it still has pretty bad defense. Plus it's melee game isn't as good at it's projectile game, making it hard to deal with characters that are up in your face. If you want to play as elf make sure to use all of it's abilities to their full advantage, otherwise it will just seem kind of underwhelming. Counters: Ninja, Heavy
    • Assassin- So you may ask: How does a class with an instant kill attack wind up in D tier? Well first off the instant kill move works for only a short time before it has to recharge. It's speed boosting item is good but it doesn't help that it has only average melee potential and terrible defense. Also just about everyone knows to block in order to stop the assassinate. Although it is pretty fun to kill someone assassin's creed style. Except for the fall damage. Counters: Engineer, mage, archer, elf, chemist, ninja
    D Tier
    • Necro- A good class on paper. Summon monsters to kill things and you get more monsters once they kill enough stuff. When in game you start out with zombies. They are really slow and you will most likely die before you can even get the skeletons. It also doesn't help that zombies only have a small chance of spawning with a helpful buff. The class is overall lackluster due to how you start. It does get better once it levels up. Too bad leveling up is pretty much impossible. Counters: Archer, Mage, soldier, pyro, Assassin
    Bonus: SS+ tier: Fashionista- No explanation needed!

    So their is my unofficial tier list. Like I said, this was mainly to show which classes are in need of a buff in order for the game to be more balanced. Please leave your opinion on the list and make sure to post how we can buff or nerf characters that need the changes. Thanks for reading!
     
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  2. Tenshirox

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    >Chemist not even SS tier
    You should play more
     
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  3. earthman888

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    This is only based on my experiences so obviously it will be flawed. It's also why I asked people to help shape the list. Plus this is really to show which classes are overpowered and which classes are underpowered (I.E. Comparing classes like Necro to classes like Mage)
     
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    Some of these are agreeable such as the necro class, but you should get the community's opinion on what classes should be put in each tier. Obviously, this thread isn't completely accurate, but good job on explaining why a class deserves to be in that tier.
     
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  5. SoCool21

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    I think Elf should be moved up a few tiers. Sure, it has weak armour, but it can fly. When you use it well, it can be... invincible, really.

    For example, flying up to a tree, then using your projectile shield as your arrows regenerate so ninjas can't pearl up to you.
     
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    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    Elf is extremely situational in regards of its evasion and only really works if it manages to not die before it escapes.
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks that block should not be able to prevent assassinate?

    As for this list... It is completely subjective.

    I myself love assassin, It is great to kill a single person. Too bad that it is glitched as hell right now and makes you not regenerate anything + using assassinate will make you insta die by everything once you use it.

    Dwarf IMO is insanely good on some maps. If you sneak all the way to the flag room and then camp there, pretty much no-one can get in there. It also has the ability to oneshot everyone if you charge long enough, WITHOUT A DOWNSIDE. Especially if you have a medic camping with you, you CAN'T lose.
     
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    But when it escapes... it is so hard to recover off then. It is also a counter to pyro, one of the strongest defence classes and commonly seen in defence. I've had so much success with elf.
     
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    Yes, that's a horrible idea. Assassin is already annoying and broken, and removing the only counter it has will destroy the whole gamemode.
     
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    very true. I personally don't have too much experience with this class. The reason why I put it in C tier is because of how underwhelming it's melee game is. Also like Tenshirox stated it is kind of situational. C tier doesn't mean it is bad but it means that it can be very situational to use depending on what's going on.
    *Note I will update the list depending on what the comments say in order to provide a bit more accuracy since I do need more perspectives.
     
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    Dying when using assassinate is not a glitch. Actually. When using assassinate you have a 2 second window of instakill and a 4 second window of instant death.

    And yeah, Dwarf is extremely good on defense as long as it has some support. Dwarf is lucky enough to have immunity to the most OP class in the game which makes it ultra good.
     
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    I know that. But it now has a PERMANENT effect instead of the 4 seconds.
     
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    Rip

    It shouldn't be all too bad though, since Assassin usually dies after it succeeds/fails. I'd say focus on recovery if that's the case since you almost always die after you recover
     
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    *Note due to community opinion assassin has been moved to C tier at the moment. It may go up or down depending on community opinion.
     
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  16. RHCube

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    ASSASSIN. DOES. NOT. NEED. A. BUFF!
    Mage should be moved down at least one tier. Yes, it has "infinite" healing and a high-damage ability, but it has the 3rd weakest armor in the game, making it easy to kill if you get close. Dwarf should be moved to A. Once a dwarf gets to a certain level, it is almost impossible to kill. Assassin should be moved up to a. The instakill relies on ping, and it is annoying to block-camp to avoid that one assassin.
     
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    You cannot compare most of these classes . They have different roles.
    A tier list would go something like this.

    Capping - Soldier, Heavy, Chemist
    Defending - Dwarf, Pyro, Medic
    Support - Medic, Necro, Engineer
    abc - xyz
    etc..
    There just isn't enough classes really :/.

    Noooow, an hg tier list, heck yes!
     
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  18. earthman888

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    Mage has a very high damage output. It's spells recharge very quickly. Plus spells like freeze and lightning help prevent it from getting damaged. Spell spamming is also a big problem.

    I am not the only person who thinks that mage is a bit overpowered. WHen I play ctf I see that a lot of people say things like, "mages are noobs", "mages spam too much" and "mage is too op"

    Dwarf I see where you are coming from but in all honesty I feel that it can't really do anything against people with projectiles. It may be moved to B tier though.

    Assassins are easily killed by any projectile since they are vunerable when using assassinate. Plus they have some of the worst defense in the game.

    Also just cause something is in C tier doesn't mean it's bad.


    You probably should make an HG tier list. Especially since I don't really play HG (although I may play it more and then we can collaberate).
    The real point of the tier list is to see which characters need to be buffed or (more importantly) nerfed for a more balanced expeirience.
     
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    Mages are very op if they are good. Good mages know how to keep people away from them so they can damage them. You can lightning or freeze people to keep them away. @KRiderClei is very good at doing that ._. But, it is very easy to kill an unskilled Mage. So, basically Mage can be op if in the right hands.
     
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    Well what are your expieriences with necro. I need other poeple to help shape the tier list.
     
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