We don't want this.

Since a lot of these arguments are repeats and easily refuted, I’ll try and group things.

Builds are going to be transfered

“I sign this. The merge is totally unnecessary and going to cause a lot of people raging that their builds were lost while they were gone.”
“I sign this petition, besides, i dont want to wait forever for Build to fix all of it's bugs. Also I don't want the memories to waste away, or the past YEAR I was on creative. Without Creative I wouldn't be on Brawl.”

Nostalgia is not an argument

“creative should stay the same”
“Id hate to see creative go, been with it for a year now.”

Personal Preference is not an argument

“I dont like the layout of MCBuild”
“The way the chat and the plot systems work on creative is the reason why Brawl's creative server is likeable. Unlike other typical creative servers, Brawl has a very simple Creative server. Build is alright, it's a great server that allows all players to use world edit, and you also get a world of your own. It's nice and all, but it can get boring after a while because of the confusion of the systems on Build that Brawl's Creative players aren't used to. Sure, we can learn them and get used to them, but even the minor differences between Build and Creative are the reason why some people choose Creative over Build. We don't want the "merge"replacement.”
“I am titled to my own opinion, I do understand that,but I don't understand why they want to merge.I think that Creative should stay Creative and Build should stay Build.”
“I don't like build and creative is perfect for me. I would sadly quit until brawl realises it was a bad idea and resets it.”

Creative is inferior to Build, there is no need for them to stay.

“I agree. Mcbuild will stay mcbuild, creative will stay creative, that way people can enjoy either ones the way they want to.”
“You don't see it, do you? The whole reason why MCPvP'ers want the merge is because it's their server and they're just happy they're getting it back. If you think about it, if Build was to disappear just like what's going to happen to Creative, MCPvP'ers would probably be sad too because it's a server that they've been playing on since like forever. The people who want Creative to stay is because it's our server and we've been playing on it for a long time. Why can't we have both servers so we can all be happy? If Creative stays and Build stays as well, it won't hurt anyone. You can choose to play on whatever the server you like whether it's Creative or Build. The merge isn't even a merge, it's more like a replacement.”
“Why not get rid of the second MCBuild and just have one build and one creative?”

Build is in Beta and is buggy at the moment.
“More people play creative than minecraftbuild, try to figure out why.”
“Yes, but there's limitations that kind of give reason to quit. You can't really terraform very easy either because of the time it takes for just one sphere to load in. Yes, this is in place to reduce lag but still, it's not very convenient.”
“Yea, I know, but like I said in my previous post, it's a bit inconvenient having to wait for ever sphere you brush to load in. I'm big on terraforming and this is just hard to deal with.”

Build has the limitations to prevent abuse. Even so abusers will be punished.
“Plus, if EVERYONE has WorldEdit (everyone does in mcbuild) A bunch of mean craps might team up to set as many region points and //replace, //sphere, and //set, etc, they would be making the server crash over and over. Creative requires you to have a certain rank to use worldedit and you can get demoted for abusing it, so people know if they team up to crash the server they'll get punished.”
“On creative, there's a limited number of ppl with WE, so the crowds of abusers are easy to track down and punish. Minecraftbuild, on the other hand, you can hire an insane amount of abusers and have some people with lots of alts so punishing becomes useless.”

You can work to earn the Trusted Rank which gives less restrictions.

“I've found somthing that I don't like, within the whole 3 minutes I played on it. You can't make any cylinders bigger than 10... I use them alot for my bigger builds. I usually use one around 50 wide…”
“We worked hard on our ranks, Adv, WE1, WE2, WEPro, We don't deserve it taken away.”
“I never said I'm worried about losing my "special name" those ranks gave me more abilities and options, not just some "special name" to what you think I'm afraid about losing. This might be a shocker to a lot of people but, a lot of us Creative players don't get the rank because we wanna be popular or whatever! Or have a bigger "status" we get it because we've worked for it.”

Its literally the same as creative
“Yes, but this rank is going to be really hard to get. I'd have to make some builds but with the size I like to do, it would take me ages to make them…”

I dont like being a broken record, so please try and not say the same things over and over again.

 

I don't know why you put my comment in The Builds will be transfered. I meant that I feel like I wasted a year on this server that is now gone.

 

Nostalgia is not an argument

 

Meh I'm going with the merge lmao, and this is turning into a war so why not listen to this.

Heh kek.
Enjoy c:

 

I'm excited for the merge. It has a lot more space. :3 Granted, it kind of sucks to only have one map as a regular builder, but it's really great to not have to constantly apply for rank after rank to get some simple WE ranks. I'm also glad you can transfer plots onto Build! It's also nice to see the community squished together so we can share more builds and things. I understand where y'all are coming from, though. It's hard to let go of something that's grown on you. But sometimes change is pretty great.

 

Blocks that lag, which I have heard includes water. If I have heard incorrectly please correct me and Ignore the rest of this.

Do you have any idea how hard water is without Worldedit? Water is not using in building structures much, sure. But terraforming water w/o WE, jesus are you insane?

 

You can set water.

 

Well this is where I got it.

And if I may ask, what are waters limits?

 

I checked earlier, but I noticed I could set sand and lava as well so it probably won't be allowed.

If you really need mass amounts of water you could always contact somebody without restrictions.

 

There aren't any block limitations in the current WE version, but that will hopefully change soon.

If you want to place a lot of water use //fixwater 10.

 

This thread is fun to read

 

Agreed.
It's not like it's going to impact you in any way... They are basically very similar and you will get to meet more players.
Merging would save money.

 

I personally think it's a stupid idea. There's still a bunch of people who waste their time on creative trying to get ranks, and they complain during that process.

If we merge, they'll complain about "I was in the middle of making things to get WE1" or "all that work just to get all of WE for free on Build"....

I don't feel like having them complain once more.

 

Well the work shouldn't matter since the money being wasted. But you are entitled to your opinion Poke.

 

Hopefully everyone gets their builds transferred over. Sorry if I was a little harsh, but I've never been on creative without someone criticizing something.

 

But these are things I can currently do myself. I would like to continue to be able to do this without outside help. I've seen no decent reason presented why Build must keep everyone chained down, even those who can be trusted to not break anything.

And on the topic of sand and gravel, all they have to do is turn off gravity.

 

Although you might lose some functionality, hundreds of new players will be able to do awesome things from the moment they join, which I think is a pretty fair tradeoff

 

Because Creative chains everybody down to the game by having to work hard making decent buildings or creations w/o World Edit

The Many>The Few

 

Yeah, and you can cut the chains through hard work, proving your dedication toward the server and earning its trust. Build's chains may only be cut if the moderators happen to notice you (with the "individual basis" system of handing out ranks). I feel like Build has a smaller "few" and a greater "many" than creative does under this system, but I'm probably just a self-entitled, satanist, rank loving pr*ck who can't build for sh*t, right?

 

Build does have a smaller few, as it should. There was never a trusted rank for build before Brawl because people were ok with the system of everybody sharing equal but pretty reasonable restrictions to what they can do.

Only because of the complaining has the Trusted Rank been coined. In essence it can be seen as Creative's Self Entitlement that caused it to happen.