There is No Teamwork in CTF

Well... you are on a color team, and you're working with other people to capture a flag. What's the problem? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

TBH, this is kinda true. I think that recovery should get a MAJOR buff, thus nerfing offense, but defense should also be nerfed. Is it reasonable that I can hold off almost anyone as one pyro on defense? No. Also, having weak defense means no games where there are no major steals, and having a strong recovery makes it so that it's very hard to turn a game into a stalemate. As of now, recovery is too weak and defense is too strong.

 

Ok I hope you're not serious. If you are, PM me for a rant

 

If the enemy team knows what it is doing, teamwork is needed, believe me. The problem is more like: Whos actually playing the objective (capping, support, defense, recovery)?

 

I actually see teamwork in CTF, I don't get why you don't. I see chemists sharing buffs, medics healing sometimes. There are often a lot of defensive players, as well as offensive. The only time I don't see teamwork is when there are like 4-10 people in each team.

I think teamwork is overpowered. With teamwork, flagrooms are impenetrable with all the dwarves and pyros swarming around, offence can steal the flag with distraction from the team, flagholder's flag can't be recovered with engis, medics or anything else.
^^ It's just a thought cx

 

Exactly.

 

To be honest, I see teamwork sometimes. Yet, it's between KNOWN and OLD players. Most of the new players try, and usually can succeed, but a lot of times it usually fails, due to them having very little experience.

 

Teamwork doesn't exist because half the people who play CTF are noobs and randees who don't know how 2 teamwork/don't care about teamwork and 4.532467424357785354/5 of all of CTF are Ninjas and Mages who can do everything by hitting stuff with a sword/damage spell repeatedly non-stop (which is basically 99.999999999999999999999% of all Ninjas and 96.457843574% of all Mages). And another 3/4 are people who do't even wanna play objectively (all of it still better than living in modern day DC {No offense}).

 

What are you talking about. Have you seen the amount of support the flag carrier gets recently?

 

CTf is all about teamwork... There are 2 teams with players that try to take the flag. It's not a 1v1 its a team vs team. If there's no teamwork then why are there medics, engineers and elves? working together is how you win 90% of the time. Yea it might be annoying to the enemies but don't they have a team too? No team = No victory/friends

 

I see giant medic teams sometimes

 

Try to cap solo against a pyro, dwarf, ninja, assassin and medic defense. It is pretty hard right? I get your point that we can't immediately force teamwork, but in my example, personally I would definately seek some help if capping solo was not working.

 

The main problem I see is medic healing, many think this as well, it's so annoying, too annoying when a medic doesn't heal you. Kind of off topic but I think medic should get points that can be used for something if they heal/restore people. These points can be only used in that specific game to avoid like bots farming unlimited points.

I do see lack of teamwork, but if you look at it from a different point of view, there actually is some teamwork. If there's an enemy with the flag there's at least 5 people chasing him, or an archer shooting at him/her. The people who don't even care about the flag are even helping, think about it, there are people rushing to the other side, which means that they are getting closer to the flag. The closer to the flag they get the more easier it is to get reinforcements to charge into the flag room and it would open up tons of strategies.

I would see lots of more teamwork with CTF Matches, but of course, isn't that what it's all about? Team vs. Team, oh well. I would want CTF to be more team-based, but I don't really see anything that could happen for that to take place. Unless you got some sort of score for capturing the flag, and you got something valuable that people would actually like from that.

 

The stuff about weak asymmetry in here have some stuff that apply to here.

 

This is too true ctf was originally a place to play as a team but now it is everyone for themself thats why i like zone control, it forces you to be a team

I have a post that explains how i think that could work.

https://www.brawl.com/index.php?threads/New-gamemode-idea-related-to-ctf-(no-name-yet).46886/