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Rant on MPS - What's Wrong.

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  1. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    Sonicluke only plays MC-War.
    Hue.
     
    #21 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  2. VforVenom

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    About that...
     
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  3. GreySwordz

    GreySwordz Well-Known Member

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    The system can leave behind staff members if it's manual. A promotion format shouldn't be needed. Let's take you as an example.

    Instead of posting an app, the admins would have been contacted because you have over 500 posts, have been mod for a month, and have more than 300 server logins. You would be brought to their attention. Personal like/dislike would be left out of it because they have to reply with a good, concise, reason as to why you shouldn't be promoted, instead of you just not coming to mind.
     
    #23 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
  4. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    That is literally impossible.
    We're humans.
    There will always be some level of bias.
    Even if you try not to be biased.
    It's still there.
     
    #24 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  5. Sonicluke2000

    Sonicluke2000 Guest

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    But...
    But...
    I'm playing Mc-WarZ right now D:
     
    #25 Sonicluke2000, Oct 28, 2013
  6. GreySwordz

    GreySwordz Well-Known Member

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    The negative bias is there in manual applications, but it can't logically exist when giving cold, hard, reasons. Let's pretend that I'm an admin on this server that hates asians. Naturally, I don't promote you. However, faced with an alert that says you're ready, what can I do to stop you from climbing the ladder? I can't put "He's an asian" for the deny reason, can I? The system would be mostly automatic, and the manual override only there if there's an extremely special case regarding the staff member.

    EDIT: Sonic, if you're not going to contribute to the discussion, then with all respect due, get out.
     
    #26 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
  7. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't stop them from making up a bull**** reason.
    They're admins.
    No-one is higher than them.
    They can make a bull**** reason and no-one will be the better.
     
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    #27 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  8. GreySwordz

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    Give me an example of a bull**** reason they could make.
     
    #28 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
  9. Sonicluke2000

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    The sad thing about this is that it's true. :L
     
    #29 Sonicluke2000, Oct 28, 2013
  10. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    Does not have proper judgement, makes bad calls in decision making.
     
    #30 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  11. GreySwordz

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    First of all, the reason will be broadcast on the forums. They admins should also provide at least three cases where the player has shown bad judgement or un-educated decisions.
     
    #31 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
  12. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    Posted on the forums?
    Pfft.
    They're admins.
    You really think anyone will try to dispute them?
     
    #32 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  13. GreySwordz

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    What I'm describing is a basic form of government. The government is imposed and protected by the people, and even the leaders must follow it. Again, this'll be done by an external program, so the admins can't just not post.
     
    #33 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
  14. e621Warwick

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    The external program would have to be programmed and maintained by the admins.
    And if they made it, what stops them from bypassing it?
    Here, I'll make it easy and give the answer for you: nothing.
     
    #34 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  15. DarkElixir

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    also who´s killer_99, i never seen him on and mitchel doesnt seem active ( the admins )
     
    #35 DarkElixir, Oct 28, 2013
  16. e621Warwick

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    They're coders.
     
    #36 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
  17. DarkElixir

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    Ah okay.
     
    #37 DarkElixir, Oct 28, 2013
  18. GreySwordz

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    This isn't a perfect way to bypass bias. The point is to bring to the attention of admins that a staff member is better. A promotion format can also be implemented in the case a mod thinks they're ready before their time.
     
    #38 GreySwordz, Oct 28, 2013
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  19. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    I know this. I applied for WarZ Moderator a long time ago, because im also very active on it.
    I got 25 Yes and 1 No on my Poll.
    Putty: Gross, NO.

    I don't agree with you in many points but this really hurts.
     
    #39 Lord_Roke, Oct 28, 2013
  20. e621Warwick

    e621Warwick Well-Known Member

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    I think you quoted the wrong post.
     
    #40 e621Warwick, Oct 28, 2013
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