New Direction For HG

Lacota what are you doing here man?

Anyway, I prefer quicker gamemodes, maybe try to make a quickhg gamemode which is a smaller map (600x600?) and it ends quicker, with the random spawn thing, it removes the purpose in towers because they'd need to wait longer but if the map was smaller it'd work could be unfair if people spawn in a swamp like @_FeatheredPaw_ said unless you make everyone spawn in a swamp. I'm not a hger but I think this is a good way to go.

Forgot to say a few things. I really like the idea of an SG and hg mix. Imagine an SG map with different places where you can get mushrooms and wood so you can break blocks and then there are chests with gear in. I think brawl should get some huge YouTubers (500k+) to play hg, I think that'd be quite good, only do that after a huge update though

 

The whole intent with my reply was to inform the good people of Brawl that the reason why HG is not doing well is not because HG is bad. It's because of external factors that we can't do anything about.

I'm not going to suggest anything because I have no good ideas. Merge HG with SG? Piss off fans of both end. Make HG a UHC with the kits, and rebalance everything to fit the gapple regeneration? Piss off HG fans, and make HG into a glorified UHC server that people have no reason to join over the popular UHC servers. It's been made clear that the whole kits thing presents a learning curve that people are no longer willing to take.

The reason I made my reply with no additional suggestion is because the proposed suggestions by @BlueGuyARed were to make games quicker by reducing map size and removing kits. Yes, these are good changes to make. But the very first thing I said was that any changes that don't make HG a completely new gamemode altogether only make HG go downwards.

Blue's changes aren't really changing HG to a new gamemode so...

I might be wrong, and actually I hope I'm wrong. I hope these changes will work. But I don't see any reason for them to.

 

At this point I give up on this game. No matter what changes are made, HG will never be revived. Believe me, I hate to sound negative and hop on the bandwagon but the fact of the matter is players have moved on, soup is dead, and other gamemodes dominate the Minecraft PvP community now. I know people are gonna hate my suggestion, but I would honestly suggest just scrapping HG and replacing it with UHC. Introduce something new to the McPvP vets that still enjoy the "hunger games" aspect. I honestly believe there's no good in trying to revive this game anymore, and that something better and newer could replace it. And don't try and merge UHC and HG together, that would just result in a ****ty version of NoSoup.

I just think players are bored of the game and have moved onto other gamemodes which dominate the PvP community. It's about time Brawl realizes this.

 

I didn't wanna throw in the towel either, but yeah, mainstream Minecraft PvP is nowhere near HG anymore.

And thank god for me for freezing this thread for all of 5 days.

 

Hey no offence, I get your meaning, but HG is not dead. 40-60 player games are absolutely acceptable.
Plus, lots of servers have SoupPvP modes. You probably aren't on the right ones.

 

Soup is quite dead coz of two reasons.
1. HG is boring, doing the same thing over and over again. There needs to be a change to HG, and this is what this thread is about. Suggesting changes.
2. Lack of advertisement

 

I suppose it's not dead as in no one wants it. But it's certainly never going to be great again.

As for servers having SoupPvP, yes but any server that has only SoupPvP is not gonna have as many players as your typical PotPvP or UHC piece of crap sever will (sorry I hate pot and UHC 100% no bias)

 

*cough* minekits, any SoupPvP server that's been around a while.

 

https://gyazo.com/70757edef7aba1462ba809e3eb31b4eb

Got my PC stuck in the ceiling fan.

You seem to misunderstand. When I say that SoupPvP isn't popular anymore, I don't mean that LITERALLY NO ONE PLAYS IT.

I've just checked Minekits, it has 90 players, and seeing the cap it's placed at 150 players, I'm assuming it doesn't go above 150.

You know what? That's pretty damn good. FOR A SOUP SERVER.

I can't find a single purely Soup server that will break 200. I can find plenty of UHC/PotPvP/GapplePvP that will.

Player numbers of 150 AS YOUR PEAK is good, yes, but it's nowhere near the popularity soup used to have.

By the same token, 45-60 players on HG is good PURELY BECAUSE it's been struggling to even reach 45 most of the time. If we were at a stage where Soup was still popular, you'd be scratching your head wondering why the hell those numbers aren't breaking 100.

McPvP was the biggest soup network. Guess where it went.

Badlion/Kohi were the biggest pot network. Guess where it went?

 

Can you stop critising a server's page just because your browser is too bad to load it?
Jeez.

 

It was more of a joke at the popular "got my male reproductive organ stuck in the ceiling fan" meme than anything of a real criticism.

It would be worth noting that after I read your reply, I tried to get onto the page, didn't work, restarted Chrome, didn't work, disconnected and reconnected to my Wifi, didn't work, tried Microsoft Edge, didn't work, went back to Chrome, spammed reload about 69 times, didn't work, disabled all extensions, didn't work, restarted my router cause it went down, didn't work after that, even went as far as restarting my computer (I had updates to install anyways).

Didn't work.

Forgive me for thinking that the problem isn't on my end anymore.

HG was the main breadwinner. There was an "interview" between BBH and hclewk (you would be forgiven for not wanting to associate with BBH in any way) along with DirectGamerHD where it was stated that HG brought in the most revenue by hclewk. I have no doubt that CTF roped in a good amount of money with turrets that you don't even need to control (for god's sake) but HG was the main gamemode of McPvP.

With the exception of CTF and Sabotage, I almost never got into any games of the gamemodes you listed.

Maze Runner? 2 weeks after its initial launch, it was difficult to get into a match without bringing on friends that were quickly bored and just wanted to play some HG.

Siege? I couldn't get a match with more than 15 players total just a week after launch. And that number quickly dropped to not being able to get a match at all.

These games aren't SoupPvP, yes, but they're also not anywhere near the popularity HG had.

"SoupPvP is less popular than it used to be because there's now an alternative"

SoupPvP is the alternative now, actually.

"SoupPvP just needs to be made easier for new players to do, and get more advertisement."

SoupPvP is already easier than PotPvP. In Soup, you don't run the risk of healing the person you're fighting, and while quickdropping might be tricky to learn, especially with the 1.8+1.9+1.10 updates, I say it's easier than having to turn around before you pot while someone stabs you in the butt a few times.

As for advertisement, yes, advertisement will always help. But why would YouTubers advertise HG (otherwise known as SoupPvP) when mainstream PvP is "m4dli0n p0t p33 v33 p33 k3dz"? Maybe BBall and a few other YTers will advertise Soup for free, but their popularity doesn't go near the popularity you'll get with people that are doing PotPvP/UHC for videos.

Yes, the Media team is a good thing, because good god that McPvP channel is going to waste.

 

If all players from all the HG remakes just picked one server we'd be having full games right now

 

Right, all HG players, go to munchym- *gets shot*

 

Not sure about the remove 100+ kits, considering I've bought about 50...

I mean, I can see what you mean, but its a challenge not knowing what kits people will be and there is a lot more strategies and options to choose from with more kits, which makes the game more fun.

 

They could get retired, with sales on them like we had on MCPVP (anyone remember the times? I bought all 3 packs of retired kits then )

 

How's the HG event gonna work? Ill more than likely still be banned for some **** I didn't do but can someone stream it for me? :3

 

What happened?

 

I found a secret chest accidentally mid raid on brawl while mining coal in the floor and got banned for xray; now I can't do anything and I didn't even do anything.