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Screenshare Protocol #MakeWarZNotDeadAgain

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by dalt0n, Jul 29, 2016.

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  1. chickenputty

    chickenputty License & registration?

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    I don't see the need to force any individuals to install a program on their computer and make them show us the contents of their computer. Whether its just their .minecraft folder or not, its invasive to do. Anyone with any technological skill can easily make it so you can't tell they are cheating when being screenshared.

    Personally, if I was on the server and frozen in place with the options of being banned or allowing a staff member to screenshare me, I wouldn't continue getting on that server.

    I cannot imagine allowing 19 Mods and 6 SMods making people show their screen or to be banned.

    Allowing someone on the Internet to even glimpse at my PC is an invasion of my privacy. I didn't invite them over, they forced themselves on my computer because they threatened me with a ban if I didn't.

    EDIT: In addition, most screenshare protocols also allow the staff member to search through your Downloads folder, your browser history, recycle bin, and a few other spots. It begins to get even more invasive.
     
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  2. Pat_The_Trick

    Pat_The_Trick Well-Known Member

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    There were 38 players on WarZ this MORNING.
    I didn't see this evening/this afternoon.
    #WarZIsAliveAgain - #LockThisThread - #RunOutOfHashtags - ##
     
  3. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    Once again, I can't convince someone who has already made up his mind.
     
  4. chickenputty

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    Doges hits everything on the mark.

    By the way, here is my .minecraft:
    [​IMG]
    Do I hack on Brawl, no. Are there folders in my .minecraft that would get me banned, yup.
     
  5. dalt0n

    dalt0n Well-Known Member

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    So is what you're saying is you don't care about the future of WarZ? Its a practical.
     
  6. chickenputty

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    Where did I say that?

    Considering I just spent the last few days working on fixing bugs and am currently working on getting the requested first map up, I think you are incorrect.
     
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  7. Rriordan

    Rriordan Best Bud of a Mc-WarZ Retired Legend.

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    Ok then, you just ****ed over your server. As if it wasn't down the drain already. Like all these people are coming up with great ideas and you shut them all down. They want to make the server a better place but you keep telling them no to their ideas. Maybe one day you will understand how much everyone wants brawl to be better and then you will make a better decision.
     
  8. Ayyyylienslmao

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    There are reasons why @chickenputty doesn't allow screenshare, which are stated.

    I feel a corndog being shoved up my rear end as I keep reading your toxic and unreasonable posts.

    (will be editing with more later, for now, just going to leave it with this)

    Before I start, I wouldn't be opposed at all to doing a screen share if a mod instructed me to do so. I don't hack, and other than my pictures of hot girls kissing puppies while looking at dank memes, I'm not particularly worried about what the mods will think about my files + folder names. Chickenputty said earlier that download folder, web browser history, and recycle bin would also be checked. No problem here at all.

    THAT BEING SAID....

    If I press the Windows key once, my full name will appear, along with my location.

    A misclick on my part might allow the mods to see the name of my school.

    A lot of things might happen. They range from slightly embarrassing to being a threat on my life. Or at least my digital life on here if the mod watching decides to be a prick, which isn't easily stopped.

    There are a lot of things that can go wrong.

    But here's an analogy. While I wouldn't be opposed to having a corn dog shoved in my mouth, because god damn those are good, other people would. And that leads to the second problem, the stigma associated if Brawl does set up a screenshare thing.

    Privacy has become a very important thing, especially after the whole Snowden mess that made it known that the US government, in all of their divine glory, might be watching us as we do stuff on our computers.

    It would raise a big controversy within the Minecraft non-community (because most of us are toxic corn dogs in the rear ends) if people heard that Brawl will ban you if you don't screenshare with them.

    So...

    THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO SCREENSHARE. GROW UP AND THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.
     
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  9. Rriordan

    Rriordan Best Bud of a Mc-WarZ Retired Legend.

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    They aren't toxic or unreasonable. It's just the truth and you are blinded by it. You need to remove the film over your glasses and see the light. Maybe then you will understand where we all come from.
     
  10. Jarod

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    There probably should be a screenshare protocol of some sorts but you shouldn't be banned for having a client on your computer. There are programs and ways of checking if you are hacking blatant or 'ghost' on the minecraft you have open, and you should only check for that.

    Also, there are more important things that need to be added to Brawl if they want it to be revived an d make profit (other than going against EULA and not putting it in the BuyCraft I noticed) than a screensharing protocol. Especially when it's main/possibly only use would be in one of the servers that in my opinion has no chance of being revived because you simply cannot make WarZ enjoyable without not abiding to the EULA. Though Brawl is doing this now, it wont last forever.

    Screensharing is one of the most controversial things on Brawl for some reason, and I personally cannot see why. All PvP servers have screensharing protocols in effect, but is WarZ a PvP server? Not really, but I can see the negative and positives of it being added.

    The more practical solution would just be if people recorded. Getting a better AntiCheat would help, but that isn't exactly simple to do. If Brawl does upgrade/get a new AntiCheat on WarZ, it would 100% need to be something like KitBrawl's replay system.

    This. It's not an invasion of privacy and they aren't forcing against your will to get on your computer. When you connect to a server that has a screenshare protocol, you are automatically agreeing that it can be used on you. They threaten you with a ban if you don't because like I just said, it's in their rules/terms and last time I checked, if you break the rules you get punished.
     
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  11. dalt0n

    dalt0n Well-Known Member

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    Don't see a change in constant xray and bhoppers.
     
  12. chickenputty

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    How does that have any correlation in what I just said?

    But anyways, we do ban these when they come around.
    [​IMG]

    We can ban for bhop from just looking at the player, but xray gets a little more difficult. The screenshare protocol would assist with that, but I've already stated my reasons against it above.

    The cons outweigh the pros for me.
     
  13. Algelier

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    Even if it's only your Minecraft folder that is screenshared with other users, I don't want any staff members to see what I'm doing on my computer. This is your computer, this is your folders, this is your privacy and no one else expect you and trusted people can have access to your computer.
     
  14. dalt0n

    dalt0n Well-Known Member

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    these are all from survival pvp lmfaooo
     
  15. Ayyyylienslmao

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    Edited with my full response, had to smoke - I mean cut some weeds outside.
     
  16. dalt0n

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    Don't hack and you won't get screenshared. Request a moderator you trust?
     
  17. Ayyyylienslmao

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    Okay...first off...

    You don't screenshare if the mod knows you hack. If the mod knows you hack, then you get banned.

    You act as if all hackers will get screenshared and all innocents will not. That's not true. Some innocents will get screenshared and some hackers with their more fine tuned hack clients will slip through the gate. It's a simple fact of human error.

    What if that moderator is not online? What if I'm just an occasional Brawl player and don't really stick around long enough to make friendships? What if I think all moderators are corndogs up my rear end?

    And you still haven't addressed my point of the controversy that will probably happen if Brawl does start screensharing. People will be pissed to hear that Brawl will require you to share your screens or BAN, even if that isn't direct intrusion of privacy, even IF TECHNICALLY, your privacy isn't being intruded.

    If you have to rely on technicalities to make your arguments, you're no better than the monkeys that perpetrated the whole CS:GO Lotto scam fiasco.

    In reality, people will feel that their privacy is being intruded on, that a mod can ban them if they refuse to comply.

    Your whole "privacy is not intruded upon if mod threatens to ban you if you don't screenshare" argument is similar to someone tieing you up in their basement, holding a gun to your head, and threatening to pull the trigger unless you tell them where your stash of corndogs are, and then calling "refusing to tell them where the corndogs are" a god damn choice. It's not a choice if you want to keep living.
    Neither is it a choice if you want to keep playing.

    So really, you have only one choice, and that's to tell where the corndogs ar- I mean screenshare.

    You technically have another choice....But...

    CS;GO LOTTO ISN'T TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL EITHER

    (I spent a whole dollar on that crap. seriously...)
     
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  18. DevilishFly

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    they should make a command where staff members can auto join the server in spectate mode

    so like if Green_Nestea and his special needs friends start blinking me for like the 1000000th time i can report them with a request for Silent join

    then a mod types /specjoin or /silentjoin then the hackers playername and they join in the hackers POV

    hopefully you people will implement this because nobody is ever on besides ritzy and all he does is fight people



    or just get a better anticheat coder and remake brawlbot, then put it on warz

    when im on hcf or some retarded server that freezes me i usually just pull up pictures of hung dudes and leave it there for them to see
     
  19. Doges

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    A version of this got added recently, so it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
     
  20. Rriordan

    Rriordan Best Bud of a Mc-WarZ Retired Legend.

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    Too bad no one ever gets on when you /report. /shrug
     
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