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What WildWest Has Come To - Alts

Discussion in 'Wild West' started by Eil, Oct 18, 2016.

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Should alt-ing be controlled in some way?

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  1. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    I had no ideas how he noticed you, but all he did was saying "trogs' blue color around his head is showing, and I heard him spamming f3a, and he noticed someone is there, and the blue around your head is showing in tab, so I tp'd to make sure we're fine. Me and Kameron do hack on different servers, I'll just tell you right here, but 1 thing here I'll tell you - Me and him doesn't hack on 3 servers cubecraft (egg wars) mine heroes (factions) and brawl. How did he saw through a wall? I'll write a thread to explain

    I don't use f3a cause I don't 100% sure how it works, I have different ways to see people that's better than f3a
     
  2. Trogy

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    Thank you for responding non-aggressively, but please don't try to back Kameron up on this one. He was very obviously hacking.
    I shifted the whole way, and of course right when I get there he is spamming F3-A in my direction. And he just happened to shift when he saw me through the wall.
    And what are you talking about by blue thing around my head? I assume F3-B?
     
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  3. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    I usually talk to people who deserves respect nicely, about the blue thing, I explained in the newest thread
     
  4. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    You have ways of seeing people through walls that isn't F3a... tell more.

    Just checked, yes your right, it was a purchased unban.
     
  5. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    I use f3 + a and a lot of people find me suspicious because I spam it whenever people are there.

    Explanation: if a sheriff dies, it takes some time for them to respawn. When their body disappears and they're back alive, I keep pressing f3 + a till they get in render distance. This only works if you have a bad computer and put your settings very high so your chunks load slow. I also sometimes hear noises, like ladders, grass, wood and other sorts of blocks. Whenever I hear or notice anything I start spamming f3 + a.

    Also, the blue thing around their head can go through blocks.
     
  6. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    I heard F3 + a, when done rapidly, is against the rules, but there really isn't a way to enforce it. Unless, we see you use it in a recording, of course that's never going to happen. We can't go by hearsay evidence either. For example, "I use F3 + a a lot."
     
  7. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    F3+A is allowed, it just isn't allowed to be macro'ed.
    You can do it manually all you like
     
  8. xKameron

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    Eil ur saying this cause u have no alts to do this
     
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  9. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    Not really safe to assume that. Many players who have alts don't do this.
     
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  10. Stefancake

    Stefancake Active Member

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    Such as me :wink:
     
  11. xKameron

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    ok, um. Like always, I miss read aging xD
     
  12. AguaDeLaMiseria

    AguaDeLaMiseria Un-Known Pleasure

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    I don't care about this in the way I don't see a really problem here, why? When someone logs, you have like 1 second or more to notice it, also you should pay more attention, I mean, if it's a player sneaking and not an alt logged, it's the same, the thing is that the alt just logged there.

    I remember when I logged my 2nd alt under the train rails with full leather and a model and Joker was outside the base and almost got him cos he was typing or afking, top kek.

    If people wants a way to solve this, you could add a thing that don't let you log if there's someone combat tagged in a 20 ratio, or let you spawn but in one of the towers when there's not any player.
     
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  13. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    Well, my alt Corazón is elite, so when I log it in, in chat it shows I'm in, very simple alert, doesn't Famouz's alt has the same msg too? You have enough time to notice, unless you're in the perfect spot to get 1 shotted
     
  14. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    You don't see the message easily if you looting bodies at the time he logs in.
    I have alts. I just don't use them in that way.
     
  15. PatrykSzczescie

    PatrykSzczescie Active Member

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    Players with alts have an unfair advantage over these without. Sometimes, they can use them to tactics which I didn't even dream of. They had processing boost and easy combat, /tpa actions, a "radar" who was where and even block the compass having a rogue alt. Once bandit tracker was available, they used alts to rob conductors then stayed in the town for safe processing with their main and few other alts. Not only that, as these alts were in team, they could see any assaults approaching them, but the assaults - they couldn't. For me, alone, it was impossible to process without being tracked sooner or later and I had to forget of hiding spots.

    I've always been against alting and it's one of the most hated, in my opinion, feature of this server. "All the skills and experience you have learnt as a player will be nothing against this unfair advantage of people who have found an easy way to be better since the first moment appearing in the server" - this is a definition of hacks, which can used as well for alts. It means that the winner isn't the one who tried hard. The winner is the one with most alts. If you got a database of hundred alts and made sure nobody has that much, you can easily win a battle. Who can win against you? The one who has them more. There's no other way. Imagine somebody having infinity amount of alts. It might turn out worse than the hackers. Even one player with an army of alts can win against bunch of hackers if they don't run away. It turns out that we don't play to show our skills as a single cowboy, but to suffer the way of alts.

    Some servers forbid multiaccounting with purpose of transferring items between each other or using them together. In other ones, it was completely forbidden to multiaccount and there was a reason. This server in an example of why multiaccounting is forbidden in others. Also, why does stuff put a violation for breaking rules if alts are for bypass? It's a complete non-sense.

    Most servers use whitelist for this and inform an admin these issues. That's not a big problem, just don't fall into "Bro, a character from my account has just been slained, go on yours and kill them."

    If it's possible, don't allow sheriff to have bandit alts as well. 18kss promotes people depending on their maturity, so they must put a mature choice: "Do you want to be a bandit or a sheriff?" There's no third option. First time I learnt alting is allowed for sheriffs, I felt disgusted although I didn't show this to them not to hurt them, but still it was a bad idea to allow alting at any range.

    @Mario, if I was caught red-handed when hacking and as an appeal I sent you a picture of certificate and receipt with my signature that I paid 59.99$ for the illegal mods I had used, will you give me an unban allowing me to hack? If so, don't answer, just ignore this thread. I got enough. You showed the respect to our money. But remember: the money spent on alting doesn't make this budget raise, but the opposite - the budget falls due to no reason of buying any features for this server if you can earn more by alting 5 accounts than a single ELITE.
     
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  16. Paul

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    your argument has changed from "alts are unfair" to "brawl is no longer making money because alts :frowning:". ever heard of mcwarz? lmao

    - they are breaking no rules using alternate accounts and there is basically no justification to implementing some sort of standalone rule on WW that removes the use of alternate accounts.
    - warz has had this "problem" literally for several years and no one has ever *****ed about it. stop complaining, get over it.
     
  17. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    Why does WildWest not have combing like McWarZ?
     
  18. Paul

    Paul Well-Known Member

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    Because I didn't want that fighting style transitioned over to WW?

    What color shirt are you wearing today?
     
  19. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    So in other words you didn't want WW to be like WarZ? - So stop comparing WildWest to WarZ!

    Its like stripy black black and white, thanks for asking.
     
  20. xKameron

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    Alts can be used for lots of stuff such as the following : Being a jerk and logging like 5 full diamond alts at WG base. Having tons of Alts process WG at the same time. Scamming people and when they drop money to your alt, your main collects it and you say sorry. I like all of this stuff that you can do with alts.
     
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