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Someone who can't handle a Twitter account shouldn't have access to nuclear launch codes.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by SoMuchWinning, Dec 8, 2016.

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  1. Champloo

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    that is true
     
  2. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    ^ I completely agree.
     
  3. SoMuchWinning

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    Let me clarify - Trump is Putin's ***** and a useful idiot. The republicans are finally in power and they will do anything to keep it, even if that means siding with Russia. They prioritize GOP over people. Putin is essentially controlling the situation by threatening to release the RNC emails as well (which probably have something in them, seeing as Rubio, Cruz, etc started supporting Trump/Russia despite the fact that they flat-out rejected him/them before).

    Also, look at Rex Tillerson. That guy is Putin's friend from ExxonMobil, a company which had plans for an Antarctic project which involved Russia - they have oil, Americans have the tech. And for some reason Tillerson is going to be Secretary of State. Instead of Romney or anyone remotely caring of the country. That is totally not suspicious...

    You don't like hearing the truth. That means I'm doing something right.
     
  4. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Really? So I can't agree with anybody anymore? This sentence is so ****ing retarded. I agreed what @BAWSS5 said and I liked it, so I said, "^ I completely agree."
     
  5. BAWSS5

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    *says they're telling the truth*

    *Has yet to cite a nonbias source*

    *believe me pls*
    Anyways all I see is a more Peaceful, non aggressive stance against Russia and a building of tension with China. We'll see what happens but for now I'm not freaking out. A certain war has been averted for now. That's worth celebrating.
     
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    Could you explain this further?

    I gave up on that guy with an ignorant and stupid name already, but you seem to bee pretty informed about reality. I would love to see your comment on what is known as the pivot to asia.
     
  7. BAWSS5

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    You are aware that there was the russian implication of war if Hillary was elected, right?

    I'm rushed for time over the next few days (exams) but I'll have to look up more about the pivot to Asia, considering what I know right now is limited, but it seems like a good plan even though it harbours potential for shady deals between America & China.

    I will admit Trump's praise of Taiwan was ill thought out, as well. A war with Russia will be more catastrophically destructive short term, but a war with China would likely be a long, drawn out affair.
     
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    I do not see how a war with china would be any less destructive. China might not have zar bombas, but their nuclear capabilities are high enough to destroy the world anyways.

    I can hardly see a war beeing fought between only 2 of those. After all the us ordered nuclear weapons to be fired at china during the cuban missile crisis (an example i brought up earlier.). The russians was ofc those the crisis was to blame for according to the picture the mainstream media and the public relations industry painted. The truth was often different.
     
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    Didn't say a war with China would be less destructive; it would likely be just as bad if not worse over a long period of time. However that option also gives a greater chance for peace than an instantaneous and devastating nuclear strike from and against Russia.

    You know, people bring up the Cuban missile crisis as an example of Russian aggression, but yet nobody seems to notice or conveniently forget that the U.S.A. put nukes in Turkey (equally as close to Russia) which prompted the Russian retaliation.

    The U.S.A. is the single biggest aggressor of armed conflict in the world today, bar none. Shame people see a boogyman wherever they're told to.
     
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    Ik all of this, but you put it past perfectly. Far better than i ever could.
     
  11. SoMuchWinning

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    What source or site would you consider "nonbiased"?

    Also, Hillary wouldn't go to war with Russia. These were lies made up by sites like Breitbart as well as Russian propaganda over Facebook and RT. I don't think it's smart to believe the fact that 2 of the biggest nuclear states would make the planet uninhabitable due to a presidential candidate.

    I'd like to have proof from a "nonbiased" source about this.
     
  12. Hitchens

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    In a sence, the obama administration went to war with both russia and china. "As a nuclear power - as the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon - the us has moral responcibility to act" - obama. What brand obama says and does, have always been different. Let it be immigration or nuclear war, brand obama has acted in one way, and told something else to the masses. This is especially conserning when we talk about nuclear war. Obama devoted another trillion dollars to renewing nuclear weapons. Thus steenghtening the us nuclear capability. Doing this while enforcing sanctions and fighting a trade war on russia, while trying to control the south china sea, are some provocations to the "old communist block", that are extreemly dangerous.


    The us is already in a trade war. The pivot to asia as it is called is a way to militarily force china to their knees, by controlling chinas most important trade routes. The us is already at war.

    I mean @TrumpMustDie you really need to get past the brand. According to brand redbull, it can make you fly. Politics (brand clinton in this case) isnt any less bull****.
     
  13. SoMuchWinning

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    Nuclear weapons HAVE to be renewed because plutonium and other elements deplete over time. This means that in order to prevent them from leaking or causing damage, they have to be maintained.
     
  14. Hitchens

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    That is imdeed true if the goal of the superpowers is to keep the same nuclear capability. But what obama did was not that. The plan is to "modernize the nuclear arsenal". This means an increasing nuclear capability, which obviously means both russia and china will react. Now they will be blamed for agression. So ironic. The military buildup in the unchallenged superpower (usa) is extreemly dangerous not only because us technology might have some flaws, or human mistakes can happen (like in okinawa or great britain), but the fact that it forces russia and china to act, and their technology is obviously much more likely to have flaws.
     
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