Elf

Elf's arrows regenerate over time, Archer's do not. I'm assuming that's the reason, but I am not totally sure. I don't see why we couldn't change it to where they can be restored by a Medic.

 

Cause then u can fly over half of the map, Get restored and then fly the rest maybeh

 

Due to what kriz mentioned, and the fact that you could have 100% uptime on spamming certain spells, notably earth element on defense.

 

The only spell that mage can use faster than elf can pull back their bow is the damage spell.

 

I think the arrows should regen a lot faster to be honest, atleast 1.5x quicker, maybe even 2x.

 

You could apply the same logic to ninja. AKA, ninja steals, meets up with medic, gets healed, then pearls across map in no time.

 

What you are talking about is health, not items. Of course a medic can restore a ninja's health, whereas elf has regenerating arrows constantly, so it wouldn't be very fair if they could just spam them and immediately have them back. It makes you have to think more and ration your arrows more.

 

Just like a medic healing any class would allow it to continue on, I'm not sure I see your point

 

The point is that it's just as, if not more unfair, than Elf flying "halfway across the map" (a gross exaggeration if there ever was one) with its wind element (Ninjas can easily pearl across a map with help from a medic) yet it's a thing, but allowing Elf to regenerate its arrows more quickly or all at once (not an unreasonable idea since Elf can't use its abilities without them) via the same strategy is deemed unfair.

I think Elf would be a lot more fun if it were easier to play. Either increasing the base regen rate on arrows or allowing medic to regenerate them (as it can regenerate anything else) would be a good way to do that.

 

Medic has little impact on a ninja being able to cap. Without a medic any decent ninja could still cap by understanding how to manage its health. This is also made even by the fact that ninja had a lot less health and could be recovered from right near the flag. A medic giving an elf 16 arrows all at one time when it may have just used 16 would be ridiculously over powered. I don't think it is fair to justify making one class unfair just because you think another one is, that is not how you make a game good

 

Regeneration V and item restoration is definitely useless to Ninja.

That's not the only idea on the table.

I think there's definitely an issue with regenerating 16 arrows (at once) with regards to earth and wind element spam. But I don't see anything wrong with faster regeneration (either by increasing base arrow regen or via Medic heals).

I don't "think" Ninja is an unfair class. It is an unfair class. There is nothing "fair" about being able to pearl halfway across the map (actually halfway, unlike Elf) with the flag not to mention being able to dodge obstacles with speed II. Sure that mobility is countered by Ninja's squishiness (@November ) but that's beside the point, which is that it has too much mobility to begin with.

That said, I'm not suggesting that Elf be made unfair. I'm suggesting that it be made easier to play.

 

Medic should restore a few arrows like 4 or 6. That gives elf a better chance for escape or survival.

 

Well you have a poor understanding of facts vs opinions, but that's besides the point. A question was posed at the beginning of thread as to why elf doesn't get its arrows regenerated by medics, and I did my best to explain the rationale. I'm not saying whether or not any changes need to take place I'm just answering a question. I think your bias about ninja might be skewing your view on the matter

 

elf would be fine if you got arrows back via medic regen, it'd sure help people play the actual class from a capping perspective without making it insanely broken or anything