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Idea Salvaging

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Carnotauros, Feb 21, 2017.

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Do you like this idea?

  1. Yes

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  2. No (Comment why)

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    23.1%
  3. Yes, but it needs improvement (comment below)

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  1. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    If you did not know I was a mcpvp player. And I miss McPvP. So why not try to bring it back (kinda). So at mcpvp salvaging was a thing. It works easy. You place a iron/gold/diamond block next to a furnace and when you right click on it (with item of choice) you get the things you crafted it from back. Eg. you right click with a diamond chestplate and you get 8 diamonds. However if the item is used and has eg. 8 durability left. You get nothing. If it has almost full durability (eg. 219/225) you still get 8 diamonds. If it has like eg. 200/225 durability you get 7 diamonds and so on. It is not so useful in 1.8 as in 1.7 but I still think that it should be added. Because if you Yolo-enchant unbreaking III and you get like fire prot and unbreaking you can just salvage it and try again. Please vote in the poll.
    ~Carnotauros
     
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  2. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    -1, I really don't like the idea of salvaging on Raid. We've always stuck to trying to maintain the vanilla feel of Minecraft and bringing salvaging back would just ruin it imo. It has been brought up multiple times, however, this was a lot more useful in 1.7 as if you enchanted something it talk almost all of your levels away. In 1.8 you can get a lot more good enchants without getting all your levels taken away. If this were to be brought back people could get mass amount of good enchants without losing much at all.
     
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  3. NathanDrake

    NathanDrake Well-Known Member

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    If your going to post a thread were you are asking for peoples opinions on a topic you have to be open to hearing answers that you don't like...
     
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  4. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Yea lol. But why are people even want it to be so vanilla? I don't get it. Altought theres only one person who has voted no *cought* @AnonymousGalaxy *cought*
     
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  5. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This "vanilla" aspect is something that really annoyed me about SPvP, too. Firstly, Raid is far from vanilla. It has KOTHs, tracking, and soup PvP; all of which are not in vanilla. If we're trying to make the server as vanilla as possible, why do we have all of these features? Keeping Raid vanilla wastes the potential the server can have. If someone wanted to play a hardcore vanilla PvP server, they'd go on one of the Raid servers which are actually able to support 1.7. As Brawl just physically can't support 1.7, you need to attract players via different means. And, advertising Raid as McPvP's gamemode means you'll want to have some of the McPvP features in it, too. McPvP was the first and most popular hardcore PvP gamemode of its time, so making it as similar to that is important.
     
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  6. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I see where you're coming from since I also played raid as my main server on mcpvp, but I have to agree with Anon here. One of the things I like about raid so much is starting with nothing and having to work my way up. Even when we had the option to on mcpvp, I never really used salvaging because, to me, it was the easy way out. If I wanted gold, all I had to do was go to the nether and kill a bunch of pigmen. Easy gold ingots from the golden swords which were a common drop. What I look for in a raid server is the feeling of it being a single player server with multiple people on as well. Using salvaging takes away from that in my opinion.
     
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  7. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I agree this is ''vanilla'' server. So im gonna vote for no
     
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  8. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Finally someone who understands...

     
  9. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    I do farm a lot many times you just get scrap and yea I always have been waiting for this. We xp farmers really want this to come. I know the papers don't really need this. I nearly quitter this server beaquase they never had it. I think this would make the server more fame. And fun. As you guys know McPvP was the first fame Raid server so I think we should add all McPvP features I really liked them.
     
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  10. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Learn english before you comment please.
     
  11. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    It's only this damn ipads fault. #DeleteAutotext
     
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  12. Hitchens

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    You want vanilla and you tell me tracking is what makes raid raid. Kden.


    Also id just like to add one thing to @TheMightyHead s list. The shop is as antivanilla as anything.
     
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  13. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    What is wrong with tracking ? is there anything to do in the server if there's not tracking anymore
     
  14. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Did i say that? And maybe if theres nothing left for you other than screwing newer players over, maybe it wouldnt be bad if you moved on.
     
  15. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Is there anything else to do? Do you even play raid?

     
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  16. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    M8 as far as I know you don't even play Raid. I'd like opinions and feedback from people that have played Raid enough to know how and why the majority of things are placed in. Simply saying "You're not giving newer players a chance to play, tracking sucks!" is simply not the case for the most part and not good feedback for me imo. Tracking is an enormous part of Raid and will not be gone any time soon. As for salvaging I was giving my opinion and the response as to why it was not added before even though it has been brought up.
     
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  17. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    I have played, got raided constantly, left. And dont say I just need to whatever do better. Thats bs, say that to every new player who quits because their bases get raided.

    Am I not allowed to critize it because I left? Maybe if you guys cared about those who leaves, maybe not so many would.
     
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  18. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    The thing is seems like u havent play raid a while cause the server is only pvp and tracking since there is no one in pvp anymore is there anything else to do than track? What u mean by care thoes who left? Like should we cry after them ''pls come back we need you to keep the server alive''
     
  19. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    I editted my post to give a better response if you would like to read it. This is also considered by many a "hardcore" server. We do care about getting in newer players and maintaining our already there community. There's just nothing we can do to prevent them from getting raided. Tracking is and always has been a part of Raid. You seem to think that it's only new players getting raided, but it's not. On Raid you simply must get up, brush yourself up and strive to get better.

    On a side note, let's get back on topic. Salvaging will always be a -1 from me personally. Keep in mind I'm not the one making decisions so just because I like or don't like something doesn't mean it will or won't get added.
     
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  20. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    I don't need to write it all out - Anon has said what I think too (at the start of the thread and about tracking). Can I also just point out to everyone that MCPvP had Raid, and Brawl had Survival PvP - both had tracking, but there were many huge differences between them. When we merged, once SPvP reset, it was renamed Raid as a commemoration to MCPvP. It does not mean that Raid should be exactly like it was on MCPvP.
     
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