Religion Debates and Discussions

@Gehenna_Beam, let me clarify something:
Morality can be separated from religion. While religious institutions often preach morality and seek to keep people on a moral path, and the perceived presence of a higher being is a deterrent for some to commit crimes or do what isn't right, those who do not believe in a higher presence are not necessarily amoral or immoral.
Example 1: I, myself, have a very strong sense of what is right and what is wrong despite believing that there is no higher power. Because I hold myself to a high standard, I ensure that nobody can rightly accuse me of cheating or stealing.
Example 2: People who are very religious can justify unspeakable crimes and violence with misconstrued religious rhetoric. Have a look at ISIS. They most certainly believe in a higher power, but use scripture to justify unspeakable crimes. They either don't understand what they are doing isn't moral or they don't have morals. Furthermore, I'd like to clarify that many religious muslims are highly moral as well, as are many atheist people form muslim majority nations.

So what's my point? Any nonbeliever can be moral if they chose to. Any believer can skew language or their own thoughts to be immoral if they chose to.

 

@Gehenna_Beam
Continuation of prof post that I deleted before posting like a dummy:

Here's the report that I did on the synthesis of RNA from abiotic material:

 

*Reading reading reading*
*Thud*
I've fallen and I can't get up

So what you're saying is that the reactions that led to early life and the creation of single celled organisms out of cosmic goo weren't entirely complicated as previously thought. Okay. What's the connection to religion again?

 

On the profile post, someone had linked a website that said that life can't begin from abiotic material, and was using that as reasoning for why God had to have been involved. Its a pretty common selling point for why religion is true, which is what it has to do with religion.

EDIT: it also suggests that they are more likely to naturally occur than we previously thought. This has nothing to do with the chemical reactions, which are the same. It just means that life could have started earlier than we thought, because early earth was a great place for it to start.

Also, to clarify, it's not that the reactions aren't as complicated as we thought. Its just that we didn't know from anything more than theory that the reactions could occur naturally. The data are significant because it's proof that the reactions can take place, and further supports that they could have taken place in nature.

 

Well I mean, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... Although Flanders is a caricature of the real thing in most cases.

Idk what point you're trying to make here but if it's that "Christians are discriminated against in America", pull the other one. Christians are an overwhelmingly majority in the USA (71%) and Christianity is a massive part of American culture. In the South particularly; if you're not Christian then it can seriously distance you from the rest of society. 86% of Alabamans are Christian and 94% say they are absolutely or fairly certain that God exists.

 

alabama tho

 

im an alabama atheist and i wanna be free...

omg tho usp, I was looking at these stats about religion by Pew Research and apparently 2% of atheists are certain God exists. wat.

 

An Alabam athiest, that would suck. My grade when I went to highschool had a majority of Athiests. Well I think so anyways because whenever religion came up people usually said they were athiests.
I can only think of 3 people in my entire grade that were hardcore religious (one time one of them screamed that me and 2 other girls were going to hell) I'm pretty sure one of them no longer believes. Go Canada!

 

They're not practicing atheists... lol

 

You are correct sir.

 

I'm not sure what university campuses you've been on, but I can guarantee that's not the case. Sure, there are some instances in some colleges of crazy people throwing fits because someone is white, but those are few and far between. Only a few pop up every year, compared to the amount of time people spend on college campuses.
If you're in college and you're being treated like a subhuman, I'd recommend talking to someone in charge to get it straightened out.

Source, please? The only website I found that said it was illegal to misidentify quoted Trudeau as saying it was illegal to discriminate based on gender identity, which is entirely different.

This is an example of people not in the majority are discriminated against. White privilege refers to how white men face much less discrimination in society. It's a term that's used to remind people that they are lucky, and that they should help and be mindful of those who aren't as lucky.

I mean, I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself. No, I don't see Christians like that. I see Christians as just people with a different set of beliefs that don't hurt me. There are some Christians who try to shove their beliefs down people's throats, but there are some atheists who do that too.

 

it's not a sin for me to attack someone in self defense but it's a sin if a child who has never heard of christianity lives his entire life without knowing...

once we reach the point where we will have a one world dictatorship ruled by a malign leader, couldn't it get worse than that? and then after it gets worse than that, it just continues to get worse and worse? when exactly would god step in? it can always get worse.

why doesn't god just stop the wars from starting? why would he kill those innocents? why would an angel help a kid who fell down instead of help someone who is deathly ill?

it's called a "stereotype". it's a stereotype for a muslim person to be called a terrorist...as a person with a muslim family, they've taken it lightheartedly because we know it's just a stereotype..

1. no
2. that is a lie LOL a heterosexual, white, christian male is probably the person with the most rights in todays world.
3. it's also illegal to smoke weed and do many recreational drugs but here we are... just because it's labelled as "illegal" doesn't mean people wont do it

 

the fact of the matter is that blacks do not always have the options to turn their lives around...white people are luckier than black people, for sure. white people did not hold a revolution for their rights in the 1950-1960s. white people are luckier than black people.

little johnny don't wanna go to school no more. he is surrounded by gang bangers and drug dealers that have influenced him since birth. is he as lucky as a white male? you'll rarely see white people in the hood.

i sense a little bit of misinformation from my boy gehenna. if you've ever been to a hood and talked to the people there, you'll understand that they are very limited in the options they have

you make some interesting points here but the most ironic one is that there is so much conflict surrounding israel in these past few decades, why hasn't he stepped in then? and even centuries ago when there was conflict there? deus vult my friend.

why doesn't god just slaughter the dictator? he is obviously a sinner and as you said, everyone "deserves death". why couldn't god just make a perfect race of humans that never sinnned? is satan really that powerful? someone who is OMNIPOTENT

should be able to reverse the devil and anything he does? why does the devil have power over god? is satan omnipotent?

and how is god murdering people good? they're being sent to hell, how is that good?

 

Summary section of the law:
"The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence."
Key phrase being "prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression."
Later in the law it says that it replaced Canada's initial human right's clause with "For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered." Again, it only says that discrimination against these people is illegal.
Nowhere here does it say that misgendering is illegal, unless it's done to discriminate or harm transgender people.

If you don't have experience with this, why do you have reason to believe that it's a common thing? My brother is in a very liberal college, and has never mentioned or experienced anything of the sort.

The idea that black people born in poor neighborhoods can get out of poverty if they just "took responsibility for their actions and got a job" is a serious misconception. They're born poor, which makes it hard for them to get a good education. Often, these poor neighborhoods don't have good education opportunities for anybody, because they don't get much attention from the local or state governments. Businesses want to look for the most qualified employees, and someone with minimal education isn't going to be the most qualified. Thus, the business opportunities for those people living in poor neighborhoods are very small and not very well-paying. People in these places also have to support their families while they're still in school, because jobs aren't well paying. This means that those people will usually take a job opportunity, even if it's small, over college, because they don't see the immediate benefit in the same way that a job provides one. Also, white people that are born into the same situation see very similar results.
As for gangs, it's not like there aren't gangs of white people. In places with poor education and poor average income, crime is higher, regardless of region or race.

Also, saying that because black people don't work for success, white people aren't lucky is sort of addressing the wrong claim. White people are still less discriminated against by society. The amount that this affects people is still up for debate, but it's clear that white people face less discrimination based on race.

 

Stop watching Fox News and leave your house
Do you bieleve that white Christians have the toughest time in life?